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He wont admit he has a problem

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Rriot · 10/06/2017 09:20

DP and I live together with my DS from a previous relationship.

Before we moved in he lived with his parents and I saw him most weekends and we would usually go out for a few drinks.

After we moved in it became apparent that he drinks alot more than I realised. He drinks every night in the house, up to six or seven cans a night. He obviously has built up a tolerance for drinking this amount as he isn't drunk during the week from drinking at home. It later transpired that it has been about ten years since he has had a completely alcohol-free day. He goes out after work at the weekend and will have several pints and this is when he does get drunk. If I'm not out with him he appears home, and I have to put him to bed as he is too wasted to even take his own shoes off. There have been times where he has been sick and I've had to clean him up, he has fallen, and a couple of times has woken up still drunk/sleepwalking and wet the bed. Last night he ended up going to the toilet in the kitchen bin, there was mess all over the kitchen floor and for the first time ever I lost my patience and shouted at him.

Following that, he appeared to sober up and tried to apologise but I am at my limit of how much more I can take.

I tried to explain to him how mentally draining it is to sit at home every Friday, calculating how much money he has taken out with him to work out how much he will have to drink and what sort of state that means he will come home in to mentally prepare myself for what I'll be dealing with. How difficult it is to join him if we go out together and have him poke fun at me in front of his friends because he gets really insensitive when he is drunk. The fact it's damaging his health and I'm worried sick about him.

He thinks that because he is able to hold down his job and that he isn't drunk every night that it's not a problem. He says I knew what I was getting into and if I am so unhappy, why haven't I left him? We are by no means well off either and the amount of money he spends on alcohol is crazy- I never have money to spend on myself but he manages to find it one way or another.

I am suffering from depression and anxiety (present before I even met him, so not as a result of this). More recently (possibly due to the stress of living like this but also due to work and things too) it has been worse and he had quite a frank discussion with me (kindly) about how my moods were affecting all of us and that I needed to address it. I listened to him and have sought treatment and made an effort to improve things and with his support I am feeling a bit better and my moods are no longer taking their toll on our relationship.

He thinks that because it's not a problem with regards to his work or because he isn't having any visible side effects that his drinking isn't a problem. He isn't affected by it but I am and that doesn't seem to matter.

He is an otherwise very affectionate, generous and fun partner. I love him to death which is why I'm not just walking away. I want to find a way to resolve this and help him address his drinking so we can move forward but I know I can't do that until he accepts that his habit is causing him damage and us damage.

DS isn't around when there is drinking going on and isn't directly affected by it but I know this could change and at that point I will have no choice but to leave for his sake but I love my partner and I want to help him, not abandon him. He just doesn't want or think he needs it.

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Queenofthestress · 10/06/2017 09:34

Research functioning alcoholic and that'll give him his answer as to why it's a problem, because essentially that's what he is!

Rriot · 10/06/2017 09:37

I told him that's what he is, but he says he does it because he wants to and that he isn't dependant on it.

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Onceafortnight · 10/06/2017 09:57

I wouldn't put up with that for one day sorry. Very excessive drinking at home and disgusting behaviour after a night out.

How can you be sure your child knows nothing when your partner is pissing in the bin and you are cleaning up after him and putting him to bed? From what you say that is every weekend. No thanks.

Your whole house must stink of alcohol if he is drinking that much every evening and I could never share a bed with someone who smelt permanently of alcohol.

I would say there is no point discussing it with him. You are not going to convince him. It's his choice to drink like that.

AdalindSchade · 10/06/2017 10:01

Get your kid away from him. Right now. He's been an addict for ten years and you can't change him. You owe your child better than forcing him to live with an alcoholic. Children of alcoholics are more likely to grow up to be alcoholics or enablers themselves.

AdalindSchade · 10/06/2017 10:02

You are also an enabler and you cannot help him to change.

Rriot · 10/06/2017 10:02

My house doesn't stink, fortnight.

DS is away every other weekend and asleep by the time DP has started drinking. He is never drinking/drunk around DS and doesn't seem to suffer the following day.

I'd rather help him through the problem than walk away, I care about him but I know there's no way to help him unless he admits he needs it.

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Rriot · 10/06/2017 10:03

He has offered to move out but I know that will just mean he carries on as before.

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LedaP · 10/06/2017 10:04

So why hasnt he gone a day without it in 10 years?

I was smoker. There were time i would run out of cigs. I would then have to go out to get some because i was dependent on them. Surely at some point in 10 years he has forgot to buy some in, miscaluated how many are left etc. If he has, he then takes a trip out to get some and never thought 'i cant be arsed to go out' and not bothered.

If he hasnt, that means he always ensures he has it available and os always on top of his stock.

Both represent a problem and dependency. I genuinely can not believe anyone can go every night for 10 years and never have once run out.

He is an alcholic. You know it and deep down he knows it. But if he wont admit it you need to leave.

It is impacting your son. At the very least because he will pick up on the fact that you arent happy.

JigglyTuff · 10/06/2017 10:06

Let him move out. You cannot stop him drinking - only he can do that. Let him lie in his own piss and vomit

Qvar · 10/06/2017 10:07

You cannot change anyone, and this man has outright TOLD you he isn't going to change because he likes the way he drinks. You are clinging to a fantasy, an idea of him that you had when you first fell in love with him, but the reality is that he isn't an alcoholic who will die young because he does not want to stop drinking. You want to explain to your kid that daddy choked on his own vomit and died? Get out with the proviso that if he does 6 months sober you will consider coming back.

But I will tell you something - there is no way on gods green earth that this man is going to change

Crunchymum · 10/06/2017 10:08

Well you can't help him if he won't admit he has a problem??

Can you enlist the help of his parents?

Being so drunk you have to put him to bed / cleaning up his sick is not on.

Maybe send him back to his parents until he is addressing his issues.

10 years without a booze free day? Fuck me his liver must be in a right state.

rizlett · 10/06/2017 10:08

Op - you cannot 'help' him give up drinking. Only he can make the choice to do that. I've seen men choose to carry on drinking even when everything is falling apart around them. My friends husband was like yours - not what anyone would consider an 'alcoholic' but he drank himself to death when he was 42. She tried everything to 'help'.

Contact an Al-anon family group - that's the only way you can help.

Inertia · 10/06/2017 10:11

You cannot solve this for him, and he doesn't want to.

He will tell you whatever you want to hear in order to spend his own money on alcohol and yours on rent /mortgage, bills and food.

Your child will get older, stay up later, and spend his evenings watching his mother clean up shit from the kitchen floor and scrub piss out of her bed, because she's enabling an alcoholic in the misguided belief that he will ever change.

Siwdmae · 10/06/2017 10:11

I'm betting he drives the morning after to get to work etc. He will be over the limit. I wouldn't have my child near an alkie, grew up with one, don't want another in my life.

So he is abusive when pissed and you're out with him? And is drinking away your joint money? Sounds like a complete loser, sorry.

Want2beme · 10/06/2017 10:15

Suggest no drinking alcohol at home and see how that affects him. It must be awful living like this.

TheSparrowhawk · 10/06/2017 10:15

If he drinks every day, how is it possible for your DS not to be around when there's drinking going on?

Rriot · 10/06/2017 10:16

He doesn't have a driver's license, so driving isn't part of the problem thankfully.

I am enabling him, aren't I? And I think his parents did the same before me.

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NoahPinnyon · 10/06/2017 10:19

Put your DS first and break up your relationship with this selfish drunk.

Dontflyjet2 · 10/06/2017 10:19

Get out now! Trust me I'm living it. Though my husband doesn't piss or puke everywhere it's still mentally draining. I live on my nerves with a ball of anxiety in my stomach never knowing what state he is going to come home in.

You can't help him. Men like this don't want to stop drinking.

Rriot · 10/06/2017 10:21

What's keeping you there, Don'tfly?

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Categoric · 10/06/2017 10:24

Perhaps the best thing would be for him to return to his parents for a while so that you can both work out what you want?

My DF was similar all through my childhood and children do notice. It was like having Jekyll and Hyde for a parent. He was the best (Disney) DF ever and I saw him drunk depressingly often.

At the moment, your DP's love of alcohol is stronger than his love for anything else, including you. You can't help him unless he wants to change himself.

My DF had a major illness in his late 60s and now should not drink at all. He can manage for a while but then binges 3 or 4 times a year.

You can almost touch the tension in him as he builds up to a binge. His alcohol fuelled behaviour has ruined every relationship that he has ever had.

Sorry, long winded way of saying YANBU and you shouldn't put up with this.

DJBaggySmalls · 10/06/2017 10:24

I'm not going to sugar coat it. He does not want to stop drinking. He has offered to move out because he cares more about drinking than you.
You say you want to fix it, and as long as you carry on feeling that way and doing all the work of managing the money, you are co-dependant and enabling him.
Stop thinking of him and think of your DC, because he wont.

Google 'help for partners of alcoholics' and get yourself some support. It might be that he is calling your bluff and a spell apart will bring him to his senses. Or it might be time for you to move on and find someone who wants to spend time with you in the evenings, not 7 cans of beer Flowers

al-anon.org/for-spouses-and-partners

DisorderedAllsorts · 10/06/2017 10:25

Get out before his behaviour deteriorates and he becomes violent towards you and your son.

RaspberryOverloadsOnIcepops · 10/06/2017 10:25

OP, you can't help him. He has to want to change, and from what you say, he doesn't.

So, you really need to remove yourself and your DS from this situation as it'll only get worse, never better.

If the house is yours, tell him to go back to his parents.

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