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Why doesn't Corbyn understand that he lost?

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Sittinonthefloor · 09/06/2017 14:09

I'm totally bemused! He thinks it's an absolutely 'incredible' result and that May should resign. Has no one told him that more people voted for her and the tories have more MPs? The tories ran an appalling campaign, trying to sell hugely unpopular policies, May comes across dreadfully (all twitchy and brittle) yet still more people voted for her - even with all the bribes he was offering. A decent candidate could have won it for labour, (Yvette cooper?) I know there's been a big swing, but still! Not winning against a poor opponent who's run a dreadful campaign is hardly a cause for celebration.

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CivQueen · 09/06/2017 15:11

Sorry about that Grin

No he didn't do well enough to win, but if you take into account where he started from (hardly any support from his own party, villanised in the msm)he did amazingly well.

Add that to the fact he did it in six weeks and its even more impressive.

Imagine what he can do now that his party will be slinking back with their tails well and truly tucked, and when he has longer to prepare and campaign.

Now that, I want to see Grin (and most likely will very soon)

I'm seeing a lot of angry Tory voters on my timeline, and their ire isn't directed at Corbyn anymore.

Sparklingbrook · 09/06/2017 15:12

HS2 I have lost count.

makeourfuture · 09/06/2017 15:12

We can. And soon!

Today. Tomorrow. Everyday!!

bigmack · 09/06/2017 15:13

Theresa May has lost all credibility. She has shown herself for what she really is; a woman so obsessed with being in power that she will make any deal to have it.
Bloody difficult woman? She's bloody deluded.

Sparklingbrook · 09/06/2017 15:13

make are you feeling ok? Confused

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 15:14

makeourfuture

Do you just talk in riddles soundbites and silly statements?

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 09/06/2017 15:16

I think make is TM. having a nervous breakdown Grin

Get off MN, and go and have a sleep.

20nil · 09/06/2017 15:17

Agree that JC has no business talking about a minority government, but come on, he played a blinder while May ran the worst campaign in modern history.

Xenophile · 09/06/2017 15:17

So OP, despite being shown to be fact free on your vetting thread, you decide to start yet another Corbyn bashing thread?

What, given that he's such a loser, are you so worried about? Surely you should just be knocking back the Pimm's and celebrating your glorious victory?

makeourfuture · 09/06/2017 15:21

you should just be knocking back the Pimm's and celebrating your glorious victory

No time. We are on the move!

Tazerface · 09/06/2017 15:23

The best thing about this thread is the simply sublime autocorrect (I assume!) of Teresa May to Tresemme Grin.

As you were!

kmc1111 · 09/06/2017 15:24

He did better than Labour's done in 40 years bar Blair's 97 victory, and unlike Blair who sold his soul to Rupert Murdoch, he did it while facing an incredibly hostile press.

This election has been a massive win for him and for Labour. He's allowed to take a little victory lap while May scrambles.

user1471517623 · 09/06/2017 15:25

Jeremy Corbyn has just increased Labour's share of the vote more than any other leader in any other election since Attlee in 1945

pic.twitter.com/CwcHzHZ04q
— Fraser Nelson, The Spectator (@FraserNelson) June 9, 2017

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 15:31

Jeremy Corbyn has just increased Labour's share of the vote more than any other leader in any other election since Attlee in 1945

Agreed he did.

TM also increased Tories % vote and in fact that reached the similar levels that gave Blair his big majority.

I do think that it is quite scary that we seem to be going back to 2 party politics.

Giddyaunt18 · 09/06/2017 15:37

He has done an amazing job that's why. Tory's sought a mandate as they were so arrogant they thought it would be a landslide, it was theirs to lose and they are hanging on by their fingernails needing DUP to prop them up. What an epic fail!

DogStrummer · 09/06/2017 15:38

If Theresa May had issued a half decent manifesto, she'd be sat with a 40+ seat majority today. I heard so many died in the wool Tories say they wouldn't be supporting her after the manifesto release.

Corbyn has played a blinder. He's managed to get the youth vote out, and to detoxify the hard left to a certain degree. Although, if someone like Cooper were leader, I think Labour would be in government now.

May has proven herself to be a political idiot. She is now a lame duck, and it's a question of when she will be forced to resign, rather than if.

I want her gone today ideally. Yes, it will cause more instability, but she clearly isn't capable of handling Brexit.

OCSockOrphanage · 09/06/2017 15:38

Corbyn did brilliantly, even though I still don't agree that his policies are as realistic or deliverable. I also think he will need a younger preferably female deputy, ideally one able to tempt the old-guard PLP into the fold (with significant experience of government, for reassurance), to ensure his achievement is maintained and to address the (legitimate) criticism that no one close to him has run any organisation of substance. He has pulled off a campaigning coup, against a dreadful Tory campaign, but does he have the wish or the temperament to govern? That is the next hurdle.

iismum · 09/06/2017 15:38

He reminds me of the Greens, they were voted in in Brighton a few years ago and their stupid policies and right on approach all but wrecked the place

This is a spectacularly ignorant comments. What do you mean, wrecked Brighton?! Caroline Lucas has just got in for the third time. Each time her majority has been increased; this time it was massive. She was one of the few politicians in this entire election that got more than 30,000 votes. That doesn't happen to parties who 'wreck' their constituencies.

I agree that he is quite like the greens in this respect. It seems like an extreme and brave option, but once people are brave enough to go for it, they realise that it works much better than the neo-liberal alternative and they want more. That is exactly what has happened with he greens in Brighton.

Imbeingunreasonable · 09/06/2017 15:40

I'm still giggling at this

Stupid donkey voice.

iismum · 09/06/2017 15:42

It's extremely patronising to say that the youth were 'bribed' or that this was only about tuition fees. The young wanted something different - policies that work very well across Europe and could work well here too if we stop drifting ever further to the right. Not having tuition fees is pretty standard in Europe, even in counties much less wealthy than the U.K. Tuition fees are a choice that reflect where you think the county should be investing. Personally, I'd prefer to invest in the young to improve access to education and allow them to be productive consumers and contributors rather than spend decades laden with debt.

Natsku · 09/06/2017 15:43

The best thing about this thread is the simply sublime autocorrect (I assume!) of Teresa May to Tresemme

Bet it wasn't an autocorrect, I call her Tresemme since my Finnish OH mispronounced her name as Tresemme and I bet I'm not the only one.

Corbyn hardly lost, he did amazingly well compared to what he was expected to do and he really got the youth motivated to vote.

DownstairsMixUp · 09/06/2017 15:45

What's this vile attitude to the young? Loads of them voted for a fairer society, not for free tuition fees, how fucking patronizing! You know deep down I know by 2022, a lot of the selfish older generation will probably have died who vote conservatives and a lot of their safe votes will be wiped out but I don't call the elderly names for it or patronize them like so many people do with the younger generation on here. Seriously!

DogStrummer · 09/06/2017 15:47

This is how a lot of voters see Corbyn now:

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Well done Theresa! I can see a Corbyn (yes, still Corbyn) government in 2022.

theclick · 09/06/2017 15:48

He does know he lost, but he's spinning this for all it's worth.

CivQueen · 09/06/2017 15:48

DogStrummer I was there when this photo was taken.

I can assure you it has not been photoshopped in any way.

JC is just that awesome Grin