Why doesn't Corbyn understand that he lost?

[Sittinonthefloor]

I'm totally bemused! He thinks it's an absolutely 'incredible' result and that May should resign. Has no one told him that more people voted for her and the tories have more MPs? The tories ran an appalling campaign, trying to sell hugely unpopular policies, May comes across dreadfully (all twitchy and brittle) yet still more people voted for her - even with all the bribes he was offering. A decent candidate could have won it for labour, (Yvette cooper?) I know there's been a big swing, but still! Not winning against a poor opponent who's run a dreadful campaign is hardly a cause for celebration.

May didn't win either! Shes a liar and a loser. Stupid donkey voice.

Bojorojo- I obviously misheard this morning, it's Sinn Fein which abstain to take their seats:

www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/may/01/sinn-fein-boycott-westminster-michelle-gildernew-election

I agree he got bribed young people voting. But what about all the people who normally vote labour but wouldn't under Corbyn? And people (like me) who would have voted lib dem but didn't want that to strengthen Corbyn, even though I don't like may either.

It's Sinn Fein who don't sit.

And everything above - he's gained more seats, there will be a strong and united opposition in the House. He doesn't have control granted, but it's better than most people could have predicted or hoped for. It shows the public don't widely support hard Brexit or austerity, and progressive parties overall are in a better position to challenge the Cons on policies.

To take your question to its logical conclusion: Theresa May didn't win the election. No-one did.

It was a no brainier to offer £0 tuition fees!!! Any idiot could have written this policy. And all the others. Any idiot can say the rich and the greedy corporations can pay. The young believe anything. I could have written the Labour manifesto! They had a lot of time to think about it and consulted widely. Clearly the young and gullible were the main target audience and those who don't pay tax. The Conservatives made the mistake of giving nothing for free!!!

Corbyn hasn't lost yet. May as the incumbent prime minister and the most seats in the commons has the first chance to form a government.
If it implodes, or there are a few quick by-elections (deaths/serious illness/ better jobs) in the conservative party, she may not be able to continue to form a government.

In that case, Corbyn as leader of the second largest party will be offered his own opportunity to form a minority government. There is nothing for him to gain by conceding defeat. He may still get to be prime minister without another election.

This could all take months to play out. Shame about the Art 50 clock ticking.

noone won as noone has a majority, so both parties can swill around for extra support and cobble together a coalition. may has first dibs as she is already in power and also has a higher number of seats. of course may should resign, look what a mess she has made, but she will be gone soon anyway. thats politics

He has lost....he got 57 LESS seats that the conservatives did and thank god for that - we would have spent many, many years digging ourselves out of a massive financial deficit if he had won.

Sittinonthefloor he achieved a fantastic number of gains as a result of a positive campaign put together in a very short amount of time when faced with an onslaught of press lies and spin and personal attacks. The position he came from in terms of negative approval ratings to a potential PM candidate is also fantastic. He has much to be congratulated for.

I expect he's well aware that he didn't win the election but the tories lost their majority, under the circumstances that's a win for Labour.

No May didn't get a majority, but more people voted for her despite her unpopular manifesto and labours offers of free stuff. That must tell you something about what people who didn't vote for Corbyn - even though he said he'd give them more and tm said she'd take stuff away more people chose her.

Pissing your 20 point lead up the wall and losing your parliamentary majority isn't cause for celebration either!

Also what ArtisanJam said.

What's the difference between calling Leave voters 'gullible and stupid' and calling the youth 'gullible and stupid'?

Bore off - I'm in the 18-24 bracket and nobody I know voted for Corbyn because of tuition fees; they voted because he gave us hope of a fairer society.

Well I wanted Labour to win but also like the OP was at Corbyn saying she should resign and he should form a minority government. The Conservatives got more seats than Labour! If Labour were to form a minority government instead of the Conservatives forming one it would make a complete mockery of democracy.

However, I would imagine it's a better position to be the opposition against a minority government than being the minority government itself, so I expect Corbyn is just being bullish because he has got to propose to take some action in order to put more pressure on May. There is no advantage to be had in saying "Well you've had a bit of a shock Theresa, so I'll keep off your back for a few days while you think about your next move," is there?

It's like Gibraltar playing Brazil in a football match and losing on penalties after the game finished 3-3.

To Brazil, it's a disappointing performance... but to Gibraltar, it feels pretty damn good!

Looking at the whole of parliament, Labour have WON seats and the Tories have LOST seats. Voila.

He's done very well, but I do agree that he made it sound as though he had won in the actual sense of the word - i.e. more people had chosen him, which did seem quite odd.

If the bloody Labour PLP had not been so obstructive and encouraging leadership challenges then the results may have been a lot better. Too many MPs out of the tent pissing in.

The Labour manifesto proposed raising taxes and investing the extra money into public services. Interpreting that as "offers of free stuff" is at best wilfully obtuse, and at worse just plain thick.

It really depends on your understanding of the word "win" OP - JC is taking this one as a win not only because of a significant increase in Labour seats but also the conversation and debate it has clearly started nationally - a strong opposition is not something to be sniffed at - unless, of course, you believe that winning is purely about popularity and ego stroking.

Sittinonthefloor more people voted for all the other parties combined, which is why she doesn't have a majority. Or at least that's my understanding.

And yes people voted for her, but it wasn't a fair campaign - if the press were not allowed to smear opponents and could only get away with printing factually correct statements not spin she would have a lot less votes. Research shows if you present party blind policies to the public (i.e. don't tell them who's policy it is) both the greens and lib dems would have been in power by now. People actually prefer their policies, they are just basically blindsided by being told what to think about individual leaders.

Tbf McDonnell has spoken sense for once and has said they have done well but not well enough.