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Why doesn't Corbyn understand that he lost?

999 replies

Sittinonthefloor · 09/06/2017 14:09

I'm totally bemused! He thinks it's an absolutely 'incredible' result and that May should resign. Has no one told him that more people voted for her and the tories have more MPs? The tories ran an appalling campaign, trying to sell hugely unpopular policies, May comes across dreadfully (all twitchy and brittle) yet still more people voted for her - even with all the bribes he was offering. A decent candidate could have won it for labour, (Yvette cooper?) I know there's been a big swing, but still! Not winning against a poor opponent who's run a dreadful campaign is hardly a cause for celebration.

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derxa · 09/06/2017 14:59

I just thank God he didn't gain the majority of seats.

onemorecupofcoffeefortheroad · 09/06/2017 14:59

and why his disciples can't see that another candidate would probably really have won

Erm ... like who?

makeourfuture · 09/06/2017 15:00

Yesterday we stopped the tide. Today we push it back.

Much. much work to be done!

chinlop · 09/06/2017 15:00

He reminds me of the Greens, they were voted in in Brighton a few years ago and their stupid policies and right on approach all but wrecked the place

According to who? Don't always believe everything you read - Caroline Lucas basically doubled her majority in Brighton yesterday. So it seems like her constituents are pretty happy with her.

rhinorocks · 09/06/2017 15:00

Bookies are not paying out yet- so they don't think it is all over.

MsHooliesCardigan · 09/06/2017 15:01

When the election was called, polls were predicting a100 majority for the Tories. They actually lost their majority. No, Corbyn didn't 'win' but the Maybot definitely lost. although you wouldn't know it to listen to her.

Dandandandandandandan · 09/06/2017 15:01

Well not by you makebot - you'd have to stop posting on here 24/7 and actually do some work for a change!

Frankiestein401 · 09/06/2017 15:03

@bojorojo that is breathtaking arrogance - suggesting the young believe anything - these are 18+ who will be paying your triple locked pension - you need to apologise to a generation.

Corbyn's achievement is in proving that an honest manifesto for the majority is electable, the lies and misrepresentation of the media are becoming irrelevant, Murdoch, Dacre et al are upset because this represents the beginning of the end of their power base.

IfYouGoDownToTheWoodsToday · 09/06/2017 15:03

OP you may find it bizarre to listen to JC, but he's nothing compared to TM.

She went to meet the Queen, without any agreement with the DUP.
She then stood outside no. 10 and didn't even acknowledge that she now has 33 MPs less than a month ago and talked about a govt of 'certainty'

She is carrying on as if yesterday didn't happen. Now that's bizarre.

She is totally deluded and arrogant.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 15:03

makeourfuture

You sound as robotic and soundbite galore as May.

CivQueen · 09/06/2017 15:03

If you think Yvette cooper or any of the other indenti-kit labour politicians could have galvanised the youth vote like that, like no one else has done, you are kidding yourself.

Of course it's an amazing victory for Corbyn! How could you paint it otherwise?

He has risen messiah like from the ashes of the relentless personal attacks, slurs ( a lot from his own party) and attempted derails of his campaign.

That he came so close, and so far, within the space of six short weeks is nothing short of a political miracle.

The plp needs to sit back and seriously think about this. If they reckon they could shove a centrist in there now and get the same effect they are seriously underestimating the galvanising effect Corbyn has had on young and disaffected voters.

Clandestino · 09/06/2017 15:04

TBH: If this was a major Tory fuck-up, for the Labour it was a great trial run where they saw that they can actually run a very decent election campaign under Corbyn who actually matured in two months from a hippy activist into a left politician.
Corbyn may have lost on numbers but The Labour gained on influence, seats, confidence and authority within two months more than before in 4 years.
I don't understand people calling for Corbyn to resign or acknowledge defeat etc. It would have been defeat if May had had her wet dream of a major landslide.

NotTheDuchessOfCambridge · 09/06/2017 15:04

Of course he was never going to win the election but what he did was amazing! Conservatives were always going to win but now they are in a far worse position and far weaker than they were before. Jeremy Corbyn ran a clean campaign that he can be proud of unlike the mud throwing, smearing one of the conservatives.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 15:05

How could you paint it otherwise?

As I and pp and even McDonnell acknowledge they did well but not well enough.

GretchenFranklin · 09/06/2017 15:05

I enjoyed seeing Owen Smith eat his words that was good.

I see the Tories on here are sinking to personal attacks and abuse. Rock on.

pigsDOfly · 09/06/2017 15:06

You know who's really lost? Us, the poor bloody general population who have to live through all this shit with a bunch of incompetents at the helm who couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

CivQueen · 09/06/2017 15:06

No they didn't do well enough to win, but if you take into account where Corbin y

Slimthistime · 09/06/2017 15:07

Dawndinnaagain "a manifesto that is basically the bible with added bin collections."

You win quote of the day Grin

But, I think it's probably just the bible with no bin collections.....we will end up having to arrange those privately.

makeourfuture · 09/06/2017 15:07

We know we can.
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Let's keep working!

Sparklingbrook · 09/06/2017 15:08
Confused
MotherOfBleach · 09/06/2017 15:08

We can what?

HS2whattodo · 09/06/2017 15:09

How many threads on the same thing?

pigsDOfly · 09/06/2017 15:09

Chinlop It got nothing to do with believing everything I read, I lived there and a lot of people who actually voted for them regretted doing so.

That's why eventually they were replaced over most of the city by Labour.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 15:09

We know we can

No you can't. Labour didn't get enough seats.

GretchenFranklin · 09/06/2017 15:11

We can. And soon!