AIBU to think TM will resign?

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I know she has said she won't but that pretty much means she will if her record is anything to go by! What do you think?

• Theresa May is an absolute joke and should do the decent thing.

Or at least resign.*

Please God she doesn't! Can you imagine the comedy clown Boris in charge?

I'm a Labour voter who was apathetic re Corbin yet because of his campaigning changed my view - the man has monumentally been slurred by a right wing biased press and he's done what the Tory's didn't envisage could happen - a hung parliament.

TM death kell was refusing to enter pubic discussion with the electorate.

Secondly - she's viewed as no back bone and a liar who goes back on her word - 'There will be no referendum' - Nil points.

Stable and secure with a landslide defeat - oops

Thirdly - I really believe the media have done JC a favour however blantantly biased they were - they, like May, assume we are unintelligent and can't see past the spin.

From BBC website:
''When Theresa May announced on 18 April that she planned to call a "snap" general election, it surprised almost everyone.
It had been only two years since the last UK-wide poll, won by Mrs May's predecessor, David Cameron. And under the relatively recent Fixed-Term Parliaments Act, another general election had not been due until 2020
As Britain went back to work on the day after Easter Monday, Mrs May stood on the steps of Downing Street to deliver her surprise call for an election.
Her stated reason was to strengthen her hand in Brexit negotiations. With official Brexit talks with the EU due to start in mid-June, Mrs May claimed Labour, the SNP and the Lib Dems would try to destabilise and frustrate the process in Parliament.

"If we do not hold a general election now, their political game-playing will continue," Mrs May said in her address to the country, "and the negotiations with the European Union will reach their most difficult stage in the run-up to the next scheduled election."

You got to love Corbyn's pork barrel politics

Given the Tories record for dodgy donations, and election fraud, I don't think it's Corbyn with the pork barrel politics.

Morning all, sorry for not returning last night. Glad to see you all bantering on. Its a pleasure to hear all your views and to have the opportunity to have intelligent conversation even if heated at times.

No Tory/DUP Coalition!

Awful.

I'm not a member of the Labour Party (though they had my vote) but refreshing to read and agree with everything Niffler has to say - makes a change to read an honest, rationale POV with no vitriol.

Bless makeafortune. don't worry my dear it won't work xx

Think Ruth Davidson saved the Tories with her success in Scotland. She may be the next leader being as at least 3 Tories are thinking of evoking article 22 already! Davidson really worrying about DUP and demanding assurances especially on gay rights.

'Myrtlemaracas get over it, have a drink'' Mrytlemaracus now choke on it'

Lovely. For pointing out it's not a grown up debate to call TM a 'clusterfuck' anymore than it is to point out Abbott's monumental cock ups. Typical mn double standards.

Yes where is 'word' that Abbott his seriously ill?

Someone on MN did a link to Jack Monroe's blog on Diane Abbott - please can everyone read this again and re-consider before posting the considered opinion of the daily fail - and let's not be nasty about individuals! TM called this election to get a 'mandate' for Brexit negotiations - she took a political risk and lost. I think she should (and will) pay the consequences.

My apologies to all but I get so fed up with the same ole same ole, but I do realise I should have not resorted to low blows in retaliation.

Ruth Davidson has denied she has any plan to form a breakaway Scottish Conservative Party. I suppose just as a reminder she could.

Turbinarina,

I'm sorry to be persistent but I can't decide if you are being deliberately obtuse

Of course we all know that TM covered the snap election by saying that she needed a larger majority to strengthen her hand negotiating Brexit because she was facing obstruction.

I have posted, because I believe it to be utterly obvious, that this was a lie as there was quite clearly zero obstruction. Article 50 passed with labour using a 3 line whip to enable it to psss. I know this because I spent the following day mocking Labour for their ludicrous capitulation.

I asked you for details of the obstruction.
You seem to have replied by just quoting TM.

Do you have details of the actual obstruction that was hindering the Brexit negotiations.?

I literally can't think of smaller words so hopefully you get the question this time.

Whether the DUP have previously voted with the Tories is so totally irrelevant I'm not sure why anyone is posting it.

The issue is that at a time when the UK government is supposed to be mediating between Sinn Fein and the DUP to try and reestablish power sharing in NI, the Tories will be utterly dependent and in thrall to the DUP

It's a huge conflict which could literally jeopardise the good Friday agreement.
It's the same as Labour trying to form a government in a coalition with Sinn Fein and then trying to mediate.

Sostenueto no one is going to vote for Ruth Davidson to be Conservative leader - she isn't an MP.

Pag, I've just read that Sinn Fein are proposing to go to court insisting the partnership between Tories and DUP is illegal and in breach of the Good Friday Agreement.

May be just a rumour, but this is a good point isn't it? This 'coalition' may turn out to be a bigger headache as regards NI than even Brexit.

I hadn't heard that Sapphire. It hadn't occurred to me that it might be illegal!
It certainly is going to be a nightmare

It may well be illegal. The .Good Friday agreement is an internationally binding agreement.
The .U.K. Government have to be neutral in dealing with both communities in Northern Ireland. I hope Sin.fein] scuppers the whole thing

Of course she will resign. She has been forced by her parliamentary colleagues to sack her two advisers. She is friendless and more or less with supporters. She alienated close cabinet colleagues such as Philip Hammond during the campaign, making them take a back seat and not listening to their advice. Most of the parliamentary party hate her for leading them into an unnecessary election, squandering a 20-point lead and ending up having to form a minority government in alliance with a corrupt, extremist party everyone sensible - and that includes some Tories - loathes.

She will have to go. The only question is when.

Very interesting article in The Independent here

She won't IMO but only because the Tories don't want another leadership contest.

I'm confused about the good Friday agreement. Apparently as it's not a coalition people are saying it doesn't matter ?

But going into an agreement doesn't sound like remaining neutral to me ?

The legality of it doesn't really matter IMO. The folks with buried weapons won't care about any court cases, they'll go by what they see, which is that Westminster is not neutral.