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AIBU to think TM will resign?

243 replies

allegretto · 09/06/2017 09:00

I know she has said she won't but that pretty much means she will if her record is anything to go by! What do you think?

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christinarossetti · 09/06/2017 19:08

Dianne Abbott is better than Amber Rudd.

She increased her already huge majority yesterday.

Rudd came within a couple of hundred votes of losing her seat.

BertrandRussell · 09/06/2017 19:16

I think they should go for Anna Soubry. She's their best chance.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 19:19

I think they should go for Anna Soubry

I disagree. I also don't think going for someone with a small majority is a good idea either.

I would like to see some of the rising stars give it a go. Or a complete outsider like Tobias Elwood.

Ylvamoon · 09/06/2017 19:26

I hope she does not resign! She did get the majority. She is the elected PM. She can't resign, would be disastrous for international politics. Nobody (especially EU) would not take the UK seriously.
I don't like JC's pomp & gloria, he still didn't win / has a not a majority! He is not PM, he has lost. He needs to stand down, like all his predecessors when losing an election.

hackmum · 09/06/2017 19:29

I don't see how she can stay. She doesn't have a mandate, so if she tries to do anything at all bold, she will be hampered by her own backbenchers. She will look ridiculous in her negotiations with the EU, who are probably all now mercilessly laughing at the way she tried to portray herself as a "bloody difficult woman". So bloody difficult she manages to throw away a 20-point lead in the course of seven weeks.

The DUP will get bored before very long, no doubt.

I think senior Tories are simply going to bide their time until the work out who they want to succeed her. Once they've sorted that out, the knives will be out very quickly and a new leader will be in place before you can say Jack Robinson.

paxillin · 09/06/2017 19:35

Ylvamoon, have you slept through the election since 10pm last night? Only asking because you just said She did get the majority.. Let me sum it up: there is no majority, no party got enough seats to form a majority government. This is called a hung parliament. Therefore, she is now forming a minority government. Minority governments are notorious for their instability.

Ylvamoon · 09/06/2017 19:58

paxillin she has 318 + 10 seats. It's the majority. She has the right to be PM and from a parliament.
Even if Corbin forms a coalition with all other parties he still would not have a majority... he has lost! All his kicking and screaming won't change that.

paxillin · 09/06/2017 20:02

He is neither kicking nor screaming. She does not have 318+10, she has 318. The 10 are not hers. She felt it impossible to govern with 330 seats (why else do this poll) and now has fewer than half. It is called a minority government.

paxillin · 09/06/2017 20:07

And naturally she has the right to be PM, that is the convention. The sitting PM gets first pop at forming a government in a situation without a majority. But her self declared aim was increasing her majority and she lost it instead.

As she said on 20th May on Twitter: If I lose just six seats I will lose this election and Jeremy Corbyn will be sitting down to negotiate with Europe So by her very own definition, she lost.

Lochan · 09/06/2017 20:27

I don't think she'll last long.

The Tory party aren't known for being loyal to underperforming leaders and she's lost all credibility in Europe.

And I would lay odds that Boris will succeed her.

Which is a horrific though.

QueenLaBeefah · 09/06/2017 20:29

I think she'll be pushed by her own MPs first. Her campaign was just dreadful.

MaQueen · 09/06/2017 20:33

Oh, Dianne Abbott's recovered...fancy that...

abilockhart · 09/06/2017 20:42

Oh, Dianne Abbott's recovered...fancy that...

Who wouldn't if they received 42,265 votes (75.1%).

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MaQueen · 09/06/2017 20:47

Just as well you helpfully included what actual percentage she garnered, because she sure as Hell couldn't have worked it out herself Grin

Emmurkent · 09/06/2017 20:56

I'm laughing at at the majority goverment comment, like there is an actual coalition with DUP, and folk are fine and happy with that. I'd be freaking out if I just voted for a party who then jumped into bed with those nasty bastards.
I'm also shocked that people are still slurring Corban as an IRA sympathiser. You've had time to check whether that is true now, and yet it is still being repeated. It makes your opinions seem a little worthless. I could read the same in the Daily Mail comments section.
Theresa May should resign so we can get this clown show on the road.
Boris anyone?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 20:58

like there is an actual coalition

There is no actual coalition.

TheNiffler · 09/06/2017 21:00

As I said earlier, firing cheap shots at an unwell woman really doesn't reflect well on posters. Far more effective to debate intelligently, rather than use the Tory method of grabbing soundbites. Because that obviously worked so well for them that they've ended up in bed with a bunch of crazed Creationist misogynists with distinctively terrorist leanings.

Emmurkent · 09/06/2017 21:06

Exactly, Piglet

TheNiffler · 09/06/2017 21:22

Very interesting article on the DUP Brexit, dodgy donations, and the Saudis. Seems like they'll be a great fit with the Tories after all.

MarciaBlaine · 09/06/2017 21:31

Totally agree with Pagwatch

paxillin · 09/06/2017 21:37

Wonder if somebody told TM how very important Ruth Davidson was for winning 13 seats in Scotland. Ruth Davidson is a charismatic leader and fantastic campaigner for the Tories. I am certain the Scottish Tory MPs are fully aware how important she was to their success. They will be aware that she will get married to her Irish girlfriend fairly soon.

The non-coalition partners are the DUP, who campaigned against the legalisation of homosexuality and oppose equal marriage.

So she might gain 10 votes at a potential cost of 13.

MarciaBlaine · 09/06/2017 21:43

Theresa May called an unnecessary election to get a mandate to do whatever she wanted with Brexit. She failed in that, and lost a clear party majority. She should go as her judgement re the country and what needs to happen in negotiations with the EU is shown to be severely lacking. Nothing to do with magic money trees.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 09/06/2017 21:44

So she might gain 10 votes at a potential cost of 13.

They won't lose the 13 Scottish Tory MPs. Ruth has said that LGBT rights shouldn't be rewritten. I can't see Tory MPs or even May allowing them to be tbh.

There will be no formal coalition with the DUP.

Let's not forget that in Westminster the DUP usually vote with the Tories anyway.

MarciaBlaine · 09/06/2017 21:53

"He doesn't want any type of Brexit, and will now be thrilled that the UK's bargaining power with the EU is hugely diminished." Saw this above. What does that actually mean. Is he pro or anti Brexit? I thought he was a eurosceptic? Why would he be thrilled when what he wants is to ensure jobs and maintain the economy?

TheNiffler · 09/06/2017 22:11

There's mutterings that Sinn Fein with object to a coalition with the DUP, as it would be in direct contravention of the Good Friday Agreement.