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AIBU to ask for your most appalling examples of sexism?

286 replies

Biscusting · 06/06/2017 20:38

I've learned over time and with bitter experience my dad is terribly sexist. Every time I see him he has something grim to say that erodes my soul and chips at my confidence.
I won't give examples of his crimes but his father -my grandfather- had several girls and my father was his only son. When my fathers siblings went on to have children of their own, they all had girls (7 in total). My grandparents said practically nothing, but then they rarely seemed to at significant events.
When my younger brother was born, my grandfather went to visit my mum in hospital. He had never visited after any of the births of his other grandchildren and presented my mum with a single red rose, then left. HmmConfused

Cheer me up with some of your tales.

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winglesspegasus · 07/06/2017 23:45

many of these.
food brought to wrong person.
i eat very well especially if i don/t have to cook.
did't change name, dh died have been battling it ever since.
Most fun of all..
was trainer for search and rescue teams.
mountain climbing,diving,tracking etc.
young 19 year old BOYS would show up for first class(was a mix of experienced trainers and 4-1 students)
everytime one of them would pop off with" some girls gonna train ME".
my co workers all men would tell the offender to be careful what he said and assign the idiot to me.
i promptly ,over 5 days of hiking climbing and general hard training show the little&^#$ what a girl could do.
as i told the 12 year old who asked"girls can ride motorcycles? girls can do anything than you become a woman and really go for it

DJBaggySmalls · 07/06/2017 23:52

Thank you Elendon Smile

Etymology23 · 07/06/2017 23:57

Sorting the set out for a play, I clamber on stage with a drill in one hand, other useful things stored in various pockets.

Someone working on stage exclaimed "A girl who carries a drill instead of a handbag! There'll be a lucky chap someday!"

It was intended good naturedly so I took it in that spirit but it did make me laugh/sigh.

Rainbunny · 08/06/2017 00:00

I made a suggestion in a work meeting and barely received a response. Five minutes later, an older male colleague made the exact same suggestion word for fucking word and was virtually given a round of applause! I'm still seething about it to this day. The worst part of it was that the men in the room were completely unaware that they were effectively ignoring my input, I spoke to my boss later who was in the meeting and he was genuinely surprised to learn I had made the suggestion first, he didn't recall it!

I truly believe that in a male dominated environment, subconsciously men are literally deaf to women and don't mentally process what we say.

buttonhead101 · 08/06/2017 00:25

Sorry not read the full thread, hope this isn't out of context. In a discussion about women returning to work after having children, my (female) boss said she'd rather employ a young graduate (cheap labour - her words, not mine) than an older woman trying to get back in to the workplace (with relevant experience) as they would be expensive and take more time off work (because of the children and their needs). My boss has children. I'm shocked at her sexist ageism. She strangely prides herself on her liberalism too.

Mumblebeebee · 08/06/2017 00:39

I recall an incident from the late 1980's.
I was learning to drive and has the most sexist man teaching me. I only had a few lessons with him. The thing that made me change instructor was his comment (whilst leering) that I should wear a tight top and show cleavage to distract the examiner when I did my parallel parking!

My parallel parking was just fine, and my clothing was always appropriate. I passed first time.

Rainbunny · 08/06/2017 00:55

Just remembered another one. I bought a new care several years ago, I bought it outright with my own saved money and at the time of purchase I also bought a maintenance package. At the dealership it me who wrote the check my DH was with me but only because he had driven me to the dealership to pick up the car. This was shortly before my marriage ended. The first time I took my car into be serviced using the package I had bought I discovered that the dealership employee had recorded the package under my now-ex DH's full name, I wasn't even listed on it! I had clearly written the check and made it clear that this was my car I was buying and my DH had had no part in purchase process, he was just sitting silently next to me while I completed the purchase but the dealership employee decided that as the man he would be in charge of getting car maintenance. It drove me nuts to have to use my ex dh's name every time I brought my car into get serviced!

toffeeboffin · 08/06/2017 01:52

Fuck me DJBaggy what a crying shame.
Flowers

Iwasjustabouttosaythat · 08/06/2017 02:59

MiL has a PhD and is a university lecturer. We had a huge, heavy dryer being delivered but they didn't offer installation. DP wasn't home to help and we couldn't do it as I'd just had a c-section. She said, "when it arrives we'll pretend to be helpless women and they might take pity on us and set it up". I said no, I wouldn't be pretending I'm a helpless woman. She told me to go in the bedroom so she could pretend to be a helpless old lady. Hmm

Every time there is food ever she makes a big show of giving DP more. "Oh let's give this big one to DP and we'll just share this little one". At which point DP says to share it evenly or give the big one to me. I sometimes add that I'm breastfeeding her twin grandchildren which actually uses a lot of calories and believe it or not dieting is the furthest thing from my mind right now, but why bother? Boys need their food...

She also thinks it's totally fine for men to address colleagues using names like "pet" and thinks girls just look nicer in pink. She always rolls her eyes when I talk about any sort of sexism.

Pallisers · 08/06/2017 03:50

I made a suggestion in a work meeting and barely received a response. Five minutes later, an older male colleague made the exact same suggestion word for fucking word and was virtually given a round of applause! I'm still seething about it to this day.

I don't know a woman whom this hasn't happened to.

Pallisers · 08/06/2017 04:06

All girls private school, teacher a single woman, (near retirement age, tweed skirts and Cambridge degree). She made it her job to teach every single second year sixth form girl how to change a puncture.

This reminds me that the male head of my kids' school used to do this too with all students - male and female. Made sure they knew how to change a tyre.

Unicornsandrainbows3 · 08/06/2017 04:18

A couple of delightful policeman telling me they wouldn't be taking my statement (was there to report a DV breach ) 'we can get a female PC to do it but we're not wasting our time'. I walked out in tears. God knows what that poor female pc puts up with daily.

GloriaV · 08/06/2017 04:18

Small DCs TVs cartoons are often v sexist - with one or two exceptions, the male characters have the adventures and fun, females are the sensible/ intelligent or kind one. This is in part because some date from a more sexist past e.g. Postman Pat, Noddy, Peter Rabbit. Lego are introducing a few feisty females now but it's late in the day.

lizzieoak · 08/06/2017 04:28

I suppose it's small cheese, but it really annoys me that people refer to grown women as girls.

A client came into my workplace and let someone in the front know that "the girl on counter 27" had been really helpful. This was cheerfully repeated verbatim in an email to the whole office as an example for the rest of us.

I remember ranting about this when I was in my early 20's & annoyed that while we were all girls, the male staff of the same age were men.

Language matters! They're a bit thick at my office so no point in bringing it up.

Teutonic · 08/06/2017 07:09

When my son was around 3 years old, he fell over and scraped his knee. As you would expect, he started crying. Cue my MIL telling him ' hush, boys don't cry'
I was furious. She wasn't happy when I told her that males were entitled to show their emotions just as much as females were!

PetalMePotts · 08/06/2017 08:07

I worked for a small Building Society with two other women. We had a new boss who proved himself to be a complete twat. When he introduced himself he told us all about his life and achievements. Then he asked all of us inturn, what our husband's did for a living.

I said 'he is a dustman', which made the other 2 choke as they new that he actually worked for a Television news Company. Some time later my OH had been sent to Beirut. When I arrived at work one day, my colleague told me, that she had remarked how worrying it must be for me, to have my OH in Beirut for such a long time. The manager asked her why he was there and she told him "he has gone with his job".

He said "why does a dustman need to go to Beirut with his job". sexist and thick.

nolongersurprised · 08/06/2017 08:12

I have a very STEMy daughter. We were changing schools for the DC and on a whim
I organised an interview with an academically selective school known for maths acceleration. The teacher looked at her academic profile and said (and I'm not exaggerating), "With maths and science ability like this she really should have been a boy".

NoLoveofMine · 08/06/2017 09:24

"With maths and science ability like this she really should have been a boy".

I'm the opposite of your username at that. How absolutely ridiculous and somehow even worse coming from a teacher at this school, this attitude could well be being fed through to the pupils. A teacher who really needs to learn about Rosalind Franlin, Cecilia Payne-Gaposchkin, Marie Curie, Ada Lovelace and so many others, that at many girls' schools Maths and the sciences are amongst the most taken A Levels. Sorry, I certainly don't need to tell you all this but it's appalling a teacher came out with that nonsense. I hope your daughter is thriving at a fantastic school which helps her nurture her talents.

TheQueenSnortsAvocados · 08/06/2017 09:35

I hear what you are saying but when positive sexism does happen there are never complaints that is all

We're complaining. We're complaining right now!

MrsHathaway · 08/06/2017 09:43

DM considers herself feminist: she went to Oxbridge in the days when 80% of colleges didn't admit women, and is the first to challenge sexist language in materials at work etc.

But this jars with a conversation I had with her shortly before I got married. I had decided to change to DH surname, but she spent a long time trying to persuade me to take his first name as a middle name.

Eg Jane Mary Smith marrying Arthur Jones becomes Jane Mary Arthur Jones.

Confused
LeninaCrowne · 08/06/2017 09:58

This was in the 80s.

At an engineering lecture, the lecturer gave as his example of a 2 degrees-of-freedom vibration system as the way woman's breasts jiggle if she is walking bra-less. He then complained that he was prevented from being more graphic as there were 2 "ladies" in the room, but that the chaps could check this out in the summer-time.

GloriaV · 08/06/2017 10:40

Should have compared them to 2 degrees-of-freedom of an unclothed scrotum Grin

nolongersurprised · 08/06/2017 10:48

i hope your daughter is thriving at a fantastic school which helps nurture her talents

She is! There is someone else in her year with similar abilities who is also being stretched several years ahead in maths. The other child is also a girl but their lack of penises doesn't seem to be a problem.

It's annoying because I could think of multiple witty responses to that (male) teacher after the event but at the time I was too taken aback to say anything at all.

BiscuitsBiscuitsBiscuits · 08/06/2017 10:51

In my first proper job, the boss told me he'd give me a pay rise if I wore high heels every day, then overlooked me for promotion. Gave the job to a more junior male person at the company, when I asked why he said it's because I was upset when he swore at me and called me a cunt.
Unsurprisingly I handed my notice in immediately (and got a much better job elsewhere!)

NoLoveofMine · 08/06/2017 10:59

I'm very glad to hear that nolongersurprised! She will have a fantastic and successful future in STEM Smile