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AIBU to ask for your most appalling examples of sexism?

286 replies

Biscusting · 06/06/2017 20:38

I've learned over time and with bitter experience my dad is terribly sexist. Every time I see him he has something grim to say that erodes my soul and chips at my confidence.
I won't give examples of his crimes but his father -my grandfather- had several girls and my father was his only son. When my fathers siblings went on to have children of their own, they all had girls (7 in total). My grandparents said practically nothing, but then they rarely seemed to at significant events.
When my younger brother was born, my grandfather went to visit my mum in hospital. He had never visited after any of the births of his other grandchildren and presented my mum with a single red rose, then left. HmmConfused

Cheer me up with some of your tales.

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TakemedowntoPotatoCity · 07/06/2017 21:26

My dad was bloody awful In the early eighties we used to sit in his car and he would go to himself 'hello,want a lift?' if he saw an attractive woman, so that we could hear and find it 'funny' what a 'laugh' he was.
Eurgh. Everyone who didn't know him thought the sun shone out of his arse.

ooohsopink · 07/06/2017 21:31

When I was choosing my options at school, I was told I couldn't take technical drawing as I was a girl Confused

That action, combined with career advice of "graphic design isn't for you - what about hairdressing instead?" - from my male careers advisor really changed my path after school.

I still look back and wonder what would have been.

I'm a computer scientist now 😂

AfroBrown · 07/06/2017 21:34

There is some positive sexism tho that gets no complaints - example ladies free to get in before a certain time, ladies day at the races, womens intuition, men are arseholes Grin

LRDtheFeministDragon · 07/06/2017 21:45
Hmm

Yes, no one ever complains about that sort of thing. And these things in no way represent a component part of the sexism the rest of us are talking about.

Tobebythesea · 07/06/2017 21:49

When I was on maternity leave we were looking to get some trees in the back garden taken down. One guy came and gave me a quote and asked if I wanted him to come back and do the work on a Saturday so my DH could "See where his money is being spent". I was quick to correct him saying "You mean our money?". I didn't hire him.

Mysteriouscurle · 07/06/2017 21:50

Very recently. Friends who volunteer for a charity mainly aimed at men. Something along the lines of we're not inviting women cos they'll just go around causing trouble and arguing.

And another time - I was going on a road trip and the lady commented that her partner wouldn't let her go off on her own. "WOULDN'T LET"? Did I just wake up in 1950? Shock

ADrabLittleCrab · 07/06/2017 22:12

I heard this very recently on our local radio station - lady won tickets to a local event that was car orientated and would have loads of sports cars, vintage cars etc. Lady was well chuffed and when asked who she'd be taking, told the presenter all about her 14 year old dd who was car mad, wanted to work for a Formula One team on the mechanical side and had compiled a list of the sports cars etc she wanted to own. Presenters response........'ho ho, she'd better marry herself a rich man then'
Deafening silence followed!

TheQueenSnortsAvocados · 07/06/2017 22:19

@AfroBrown

There is some positive sexism tho that gets no complaints - example ladies free to get in before a certain time, ladies day at the races, womens intuition, men are arseholes

Women get free entry to clubs so that they can be used as a sexual lure to entice in more men, who are traditionally bigger spenders. We are literally being used as objects, as bait. But this is a positive thing?

I can't speak for the races as I know little to nothing about it.

Women's intuition? A way of minimising women's ability to be logical whilst at the same time denying men the luxury of being emotionally intuitive.

And as for your last point? If the shoe fits...

NoLoveofMine · 07/06/2017 22:23

We are literally being used as objects, as bait. But this is a positive thing?

Quite. It's complete objectification of women - used to "attract" men who get the lure of more women, the insinuation being they can anticipate plenty of women to ogle, and women - and belittling in other ways as well, suggesting men are the default customer who need to be lured and will be the ones spending money, as if women aren't capable of earning and spending their own money.

I would never go to any establishment which had such a policy.

HolaWeenie · 07/06/2017 22:29

After living in our current home for 6 months, our neighbour, whose garden backs on to ours, came over, I answered the door and we made our introductions, he had come over to let us know he would be having a tree removed and crowning another, only he said to me "err, it's about trees, is your husband in"? Hmm I assured him that despite having a vagina I was perfectly capable of discussing trees!

Starlighter · 07/06/2017 22:34

Ok I've been on here for months now and I still have no idea what this biscuit thing is all about?!

AfroBrown · 07/06/2017 22:34

@TheQueenSnortsAvocados I hear what you are saying but when positive sexism does happen there are never complaints that is all.

Sexism is disgusting but as with all ism's will never end because people continue to be ignorant and insensitive.

saltandvinegarcrisps1 · 07/06/2017 22:35

After the Manchester attack and the release of details of the 8 year old victim, middle aged male colleague says "so sad - she was such a beautiful girl" as if it wouldn't be so sad if she wasn't "beautiful". He got a right pasting. Similar thing happened on the news a while back when a young girl was killed - the newsreader described her as "heartbreakingly pretty". Makes me really angry.

Biscusting · 07/06/2017 22:36

Saw this and had to share

AIBU to ask for your most appalling examples of sexism?
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NoLoveofMine · 07/06/2017 22:44

AfroBrown there are complaints. There have been complaints on this thread and I and plenty of girls I know have discussed the sexism of the type you referred to there a fair few times, I've also read of women challenging it. It's not "positive" either, it's the objectification and belittling of women.

AfroBrown · 07/06/2017 22:50

@NoLoveofMine there may have been complaints but until there is a stand nothing won't get done. The issue is for every respectable women complains about ie being treated as bait by letting girls go in free there will be 100 girls who turn up to go free.

Unfortunately in today's society unless there is as mass coming together or a stand effects an organist ions profit little attention is paid. This is just my opinion not fact.

AntiGrinch · 07/06/2017 22:53

Eight years ago I started trying to get life assurance for me and exP, when I was about to have a baby. he didn't give a damn about it, took no interest in it whatsoever, was only vaguely aware that it was going on. I rang up and started the process and was told that we would have to do medical questionnaires and perhaps a phone interview. then nothing happened. for weeks. I was nervous about dying in childbirth and leaving my baby with a penniless father :) so I chased this up, and was told that letters had been sent, phone interviews arranged, everything was happening.....

I hadn't been written to. ExP had. He didn't really undersatnd it and it was all a mess.

So I phoned back and asked them to swap our names over. They had put him as no1 and me as no2. I asked them to just pop us the other way around - why not just do it alphabetically, my name is before his in the alphabet...

They refused to do this. They refused to deal with a woman as the primary applicant for life assurance. And they told me it was illegal.. They also got very shirty with me.

It was clear that while they fully accepted in theory that sometimes a woman is managing something like this - and even paying for it? did they understand that? -, it is still inappropriate to write to her, in her own name. what she is supposed to do, presumably, is intercept the post addressed to her male partner, chase him around the house with it while he tries to ignore the matter, getting on with his customary habits of drinking beer and watching football, and pester him to open it and allow her to deal with it; perhaps sit with him for the medical interview, at which he is asked questions about her health, and feed him the answers - maybe cough-speaking like that women on Millionaire - because UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES can a woman come before a man, or communicated with directly as if she takes precedence. Bizarre.

It never happened - I had to go to a completely different insurance provider because they got really annoyed with me for asking the impossible

filthosaurus · 07/06/2017 22:55

Dh and the kids surname is Hott. My birth surname was Cross but I changed it to Buns a couple of years ago for various reasons.

When we married I remained Miss F Buns as opposed to changing my name to Mrs F Hot. Again, I have good reason to do so. I'm not a solicitor or lawyer by the way

Don't even get me started on the twats who process dbs checks who cannot get their heads around the fact that my surname is neither Hot or Cross. And my fucking doctors surgery who really don't seem to get it either. According to the dragon on reception, I must have the same name as my children.

Really winds me up.

AfroBrown · 07/06/2017 22:57

@AntiGrinch that is disgusting glad you changed. If that happens again blast the company on social media or wherever you can bad press is the only way to start making companies change.

NoLoveofMine · 07/06/2017 23:03

filthosaurus you shouldn't even need to qualify that with "I have good reason to do so". Why should a woman need any reason not to change her surname? I'd never change mine and need no justification. Husbands never need any.

filthosaurus · 07/06/2017 23:04

Another one.
The youngest (ds) happens to have a penchant for nail varnish. He doesn't mind the pink sparkly stuff but much prefers the red and blue stuff because it's the same colours as the council bin lorry.

He has his own collection of nail varnishes so he doesn't use my decent stuff. In the colours of all his favourite vehicles. Ask.him and he will tell you what each colour represents.

The amount of people that think that painting his nails is tantamount to his willy dropping off is quite amusing. Yes, boys can wear varnish, no it won't turn him gay, no I don't give two fucks.

filthosaurus · 07/06/2017 23:07

It's more because I have chosen to remain as Miss even though I am married. The use of the term Miss has its own connotations but filling in forms that ask you for your title and marital status are always good fun.

SeanSpicer · 07/06/2017 23:08

filth that is so sweet Smile

NoLoveofMine · 07/06/2017 23:14

I think plenty of women go by Ms whether married or not, I certainly will do.

WinkyisbackontheButterBeer · 07/06/2017 23:21

Notlostjustexploring
I've just realise that my dh doesn't come across particularly well in that. He is super and regularly tells people that they need to speak to "the one with all of the common sense" if they start talking to him about anything vaguely practical.

I can't believe that women still allow anyone to tell them how to vote. That is ludicrous Shock