To think people who would otherwise vote for corbyn may not because of Diane Abbott?

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Sorry if there's already a thread about her latest cringeworthy interview but I couldn't find one... here she was on sky new last night, clearly having failed to read the police report she was there to discuss:

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.thesun.co.uk/news/3731086/shadow-home-secretary-diane-abbott-car-crash-interview-sky-police-security-london-bridge-attacks-terror/amp/

I like corbyn and what he stands for, but I can't give him my vote with these buffoons around him!

She's not very good on TV so Labour should put up someone who is if they want to win. I want the Conservatives to win so am quite pleased when they put forward people for interview who do not come over very well.

A klot of people are good in the background but not with details and do badly on live TV. Others don't. I've done live TV and I'm quite good but that doesn't mean I am bright or better than someone who is good in the background with the donkey work.

Diane Abbott is just the most recent face of the current labour top team's incompetence - I can't believe anyone thinks the current labour front bench can deliver a huge scandinavian style economic model in 5 years even if that's what you wanted.

mummymeister - I was just quoting you, not actually asking you. The way you keep on and on at make and asking 'who do you work for' was making you sound very dramatic (and paranoid)

I too am waiting for labour to be sensible credible and electable.

They clearly arnt now.

Boop - have you read any of make's posts though? No attempt to engage with the conversation, just ceaseless lists of what he/she thinks the Tories have done wrong.

It's amusing me now!

NotLotteryWinYet I'm in NL and a Dutch (leftie) friend pointed out how impossible the UK situation was in terms of the voting system. You essentially have three or four party options (and two of those are pretty minor) yet the range of politics within each of the first two is ginormous. Many people are left with the 'least worst' choice and if they are in a safe Tory or Labour seat, it's so easy to think their vote 'won't make a difference' anyway.

mummy

Your posts are fine.

Clearly some posters see no wrong in any labour candidate,unless of course they are the sensible ones who can't support corbyn.

It's a momentum infiltration just like militant tendency in the 80s but back then the members hadn't voted the main agitators leader.

You couldn't make it up

right so just because someone doesn't like the same political party as you they must work for the opposition? Ok

It's like going through the Looking Glass, Not, isn't it. Sort of looks like your Labour you would vote for then people start doing batshit despotic stuff and wandering around mumbling utter bollocks..

sadly dan I have been here from the beginning of the thread and I have read all of makes post.

god they are boring. I hope make isn't hoping to stand as a candidate in 2020. lord help us if he/she does.

its not about being dramatic or paranoid boop. when someone keeps using exactly the same style in their post every single time its not a discussion its a lecture.

neatly split into 2 paragraphs and a handy recap just in case the idiots aren't getting it. Not on really.

No, boop. Debating the points are fine. Ignoring posts and questions and simply reciting like an automaton = labourbot

Yes I'm thinking we'd have been better off with PR, the centre (I'm not allowed by some to say I'm left) like me can't make our votes count towards a party that wants to simply fund existing state provision better and make tax adjustments to do that.

Clearly people who don't agree with you are not welcome here

It's a chat site, Boop. Mummymeister isn't going round their house and cutting the plug off their computer.

I don't think that it xanthine be said that Diane Abbott isn't media savvy. She sat on the This Week sofa with Michael Portillo for years.

She just doesn't do her research. She's either too arrogant to take the advice of her advisors / read her researcher's notes or she's Ill which could be dementia, a ghastly menopause or something even worse.

Either way, she should step down as the thought of her being Home Secretary is too much to countenance. Amber Rudd does a much better job.

My seat is marginal for the first time ever although it's likely the close vote between SNP, lab and cons will mean the SNP hold it.

Abbot needs to go but at least she is one vs Hunt, May, Fallon, Boris, Rudd - all caught lying, all been unable to answer direct questions. I feel this election is now more a moral choice than a political one, if you have any sense of compassion and social justice vote Labour

Yeah I'm not sure 'duty of care' means what you think it means, mummymeister. If she had slipped over and hurt her knee, or was so unwell she needed sectioning, what you're saying might have some relevance. It doesn't extend to getting nervous and talking crap in interviews.

She's 63. Surely can't be meno!!

I don't accept the equation of political choices To morality.
Am I less moral because I do not want free tuition for my dc when I can pay?
Am I less moral because I don't think renationalising should be a priority?
Am I less moral than thou because I'd rather my dc didn't get free school meals?
Am I less moral than thou because I don't want firms to face huge cost increases and go to the wall?
Am I less moral than thou because I don't want people in low wage jobs to get hours cuts and job losses due to a min wage hike being poorly implemented?

Everyone looks at the evidence and makes the best decision as they see it. The cheap moralising gets me down - Tory voters are not evil, everyone that doesn't vote your way is not evil - Corbyn supporters are not evil...

if you have any sense of compassion or justice vote labour

What a totally idiotic post.

Very sensible actually.

Very sensible actually.

It is for those that think they are morally superior and ironically enough only see things in black and white, good v evil, a bit like a child viewing there favourite cartoon or sports team.

I spend a huge amount of my time working for free for a few charities and give up personal time at weekends for another one.

Apparently though I must be lacking in compassion if I don't vote for the Knitted Dinosaur of Fiscal Doom

The fact that all the charities are v scared of a labour victory because they know full well that charitable receipts will plunge when taxes rise is also lacking in compassion, I suppose?

Or those who are morally superior