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To ask for a summary on the Tory v Labour stance on what to do about terrorism?

347 replies

Bearbehind · 04/06/2017 20:20

This is looking like being the most critical issue of our times at the moment despite my thoughts that Brexit was the crux of this election.

Can anyone cut through the waffle and tell us what the 2 main parties are offering to do about extremists and terrorism?

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waitforitfdear · 05/06/2017 15:37

I don't think they will you know as the far left and far right are always twice as gobby as everyone else but they still only get one vote.

Hopefully Friday will see the demise of both ukip and the present labour shower and usher in a good candidate like Yvette cooper to form a sensible opposition.

waitforitfdear · 05/06/2017 15:39

Well he doesn't really like strong women does he just fawning admiring ones.

Crackednips · 05/06/2017 15:40

Can you imagine his foreign policy? Find out who hates Britain/is killing British people and er, side with them.

BertrandRussell · 05/06/2017 17:26

Just had a hunt for him losing his rag-can you point me towards it, please?

Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 17:37

It's been repeated on sky news a few times Bertrand.

Ontopofthesunset · 05/06/2017 18:00

That's hardly losing his rag, is it? It's just typical politician exasperation when asked a question you have made it clear you're not going to answer. Every political interview has one of these questions in it. Listen to the Today programme passim. It's no different from Theresa May refusing to answer any questions and just instead saying "What Jeremy Corbyn has said he'll do...."

For a proper example of losing one's rag, see Boris Johnson with Andrew Gwynne.

MaybeNextWeek · 05/06/2017 18:10

'That's hardly losing his rag, is it? '

No, it's just not answering the question and getting a bit stroppy.

Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 18:13

Very, very tetchy as per.

Corbyn really doesn't like being contradicted or disagreed with, does he?!

What a crosspatch Grin

waitforitfdear · 05/06/2017 18:14

I have noticed though he doesn't like being pinned down for a proper answer especially with female journos. Emma last week and now this.

He does need to understand that most of us don't see his every utterance as a voice from God and he will be questioned snd pinned down on the nitty gritty of policy and costing.

waitforitfdear · 05/06/2017 18:14

X post charm

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/06/2017 18:15

Still waiting for the Shadow Home Secretary to actually say something.

waitforitfdear · 05/06/2017 18:21

No no piglet the dear leader has put her into preventative custody on the grounds she's a fucking idiot.

waitforitfdear · 05/06/2017 18:22

No no piglet the dear leader has put her into preventative custody on the grounds she's a fucking idiot.

Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 18:24

Lol @ Dear Leader Grin

Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 18:27

Diane Abbott...

order-order.com/2017/06/05/guy-news-special-wheres-diane/

Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 18:27

How's your nephew doing Piglet?
Hope he's on the mend xx

MaybeNextWeek · 05/06/2017 18:28

'Still waiting for the Shadow Home Secretary to actually say something'
Yes obviously been told to zip it as she's such a liability. Shame though, she's good for a laugh.

Crackednips · 05/06/2017 18:31

Here he is hanging up rather than answering whether he was willing to condemn IRA terrorism or not. Sort of him losing his rag. Little b***d

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02z3x45

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 05/06/2017 18:33

How's your nephew doing Piglet?
Hope he's on the mend xx

Thank you for asking.

He is not yet out if the woods but making progress.

So grateful to all that have helped him.

BertrandRussell · 05/06/2017 18:36

"I have noticed though he doesn't like being pinned down for a proper answer especially with female journos. Emma last week and now this."

Is that the Emma whose right to hold him to account he fiercely defended? That Emma?

Charmageddon · 05/06/2017 18:37

Glad he's getting there, wishing him all the best Flowers

TheElementsSong · 05/06/2017 18:54

Well, I think a pox on both their houses. Let's have a proper leader.

www.buzzfeed.com/janelytvynenko/no-londoners-didnt-chant-donald-trump-we-love-you-after-the?utm_term=.xgLjx0GYQ#.wdZEnqWR1

cathf · 05/06/2017 19:26

As other posters have said, it's the adulation and hero-worship of JC I struggle to understand.
My 23-year-old son - yes, I can understand him believing the promises - he's young and idealistic.
But the middle-aged women I know - no, can't understand that at all. Surely they are old enough and have lived through enough Governments to realise that 1) Promises are never kept and 2) Nothing really changes much.
One of my friends spent the first day after the Manchester attack beseeching people not to turn it into a political football, then spent the second day linking to various websites claiming it would not have happened if JC was PM.
Likewise, spent most of last week in a hysterical froth about TM's unfunny quip about JC naked, accusing her of body shaming, sexism, she should resign etc etc, then spent most of the weekend basically ripping into a student who asked a question on QT last week because he wore a £150 jumper.
Double standards at there starkest, but she does not see the irony.
EVERYTHING JC says and does is right, NOTHING TM says or does is right, criticise JC at your peril, but it's OK for Tories to be bullied and criticised in the harshest way because, well, they are Tories and Labour supporters have the moral high ground.
It's all so very infantile and embarrassing.

cathf · 05/06/2017 19:27

THEIR starkest, obviously!

Ontopofthesunset · 05/06/2017 19:35

I'm not a Jeremy Corbyn fan at all. I'm a centrist social democrat. There is a massive amount of cognitive bias going on on both sides. I don't think any type of government is perfect, and I certainly don't think our confrontational Bad vs Good pretty much two-party system is the best that there could be. I think people in general seem to have bought into a myth that a strong majority is a good thing, whereas in fact a coalition leads to much more consensual governing.

("Treesa, people have cottoned on to Strong and Stable, so we're asking you to move on to Coalition of Chaos. Seriously they won't notice..')