I'm getting sick of Tory HQ starting threads here to discredit Labour

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come on guys, we can all see through it

fight the election without resorting to this

Corbun has a beard. How can anyone sexy have a beard? Yuck and he's 68. Unless you are into grandfather how could anyone and he has a younger wife so must be a traditional sexist labour person surely?

However I just ignore all personal insults against both party leaders most of which are very unfair. Both May and Corbyn could earn a lot more money doing something else but instead both devote themselves to their country and are good moral kind people. We are lucky to have them both and I am happy to write that as a Tory.

I don't support most of Labour's policies even abolition of student fees which might save me £100k over the next 3 years with the twins as I want a much smaller state and much lower taxes, but the Tories are not even radical enough on tax and spending for me.

Bear in mind that someone may have only a few recent posts because they're an existing Mumsnetter who's changed their name for a while (while it's a tad heated on here) or like me, gets fed up of being the same thing for too long. It doesn't mean they're new....

I saw it the other day and rolled my eyes, but then realised it was a poster I've spoken to many times on here before, so that did surprise me. That's WellErr a fellow farmer. What is she thinking?

derxa It wasn't that poster that I saw.

There will be Tories who think it's a shoo in.

And Labour who think they might eat into the Tory majority.

It is the hustings.

Tories will win, but not by anything like the majority La May though when she called the election. i.e. Labour dead Tory alive, and all that.

True what they say, a week is a long time in politics!

Yes, I've not long ago namechanged because I'd been the same for boring long. But I'm deliberately recognisable to anyone who "knows" me.

And I'm not posting synchronised shit from central office (whichever one) and then doing a runner.

I agree that the majority won't be huge but current polls suggest anything between 40-90 odd seats so who knows.

I think LibDems backed the wrong horse with their Brexit stance and it looks as if they could actually lose seats. Farron and Clegg seats are looking uncertain.

I feel there's more pro-Corbyn threads on MN. I guess it all depends on your political perspective.

53rdWay

Do people really think that writing their opinions on a website changes other peoples opinions

Repeatedly discussing things with a constant message does help nudge opinions.

I am seeing a vast number of pro Corbyn threads actualy on MN. They are hard to keep up with...... Nor do I think they reflect a huge exchange in posters views in to favour Corbyn.

Howeer I hope all MN posters will get out and vote. The Tories will not necessarily be a shoe in and we need every last poster to get out there and vote. Nothing is certain until it is all over.

The Tory policy from day I is to get the message out there they might lose. That has remained the stance throughout. Assuming they will get in regardless would never have been wise. I hope my area will stay Tory ( massive majority despite the 3 Corbynists who live off my income and whom I house - little traitors.. how dare they have free thoughts....) but our next London borough is labour by a small majority - if that ges to the Tories I will be glad.

If Bishop Auckland were my grandather was a councillor (independent ) in the 1920s and 30s goes Tory (it was last anything other than Labour in 1929) then I will be particuarly pleased.

drip - drip - drip

Especially with Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt.

Huh. I'd been thinking the exact opposite about Labour. All the Corbyn love on here and Tory bashing is rather obvious.

I suspect many find it so hard to believe that MNers could be Tory voters that they assume anything that isn't singing Labour's praises is posted by Tory HQ

(That was in response to Orlantina.)

population of UK is 65 + million.

And some here are concerned that they might be outed.

Baffled.

Interestingly, more than one person saying that the Left is attacking the right and that mumsnet is very left wing, has either name changed or only joined in the last week.

Also, conservative party hq do employ people to use websites such as this, as do other parties.

Garden tax. The facts

Every time I post something that may suggest that Labour are not necessarily the answer to all of life's ills, I am rounded on with reams of posts from posters which basically all boil down to how I am not as caring as them.
I have a real problem with the childishness and downright silliness of social media posts from some Labour supporters. It's like reading the diary of a 12-year-old girl about her popstar crush.
Today I have been treated to endless scaremongering and bitching, from Have You Bought Your Health Insurance for June 9 to yet another doctored photo of JC speaking to a football crowd ('Look how popular he is - all of those people came along to see him!) compared to TM arriving at a rural airfield (Look, no-one came to see her!')
We had a visitor from Labour this morning and I was gutted to have missed her - I would have loved to ask her if she thought the kind of social media rubbish supporters are pumping out at an alarming rate did the party's cause any good whatsoever.

I have seen many anti Tory anti May on here op, how does that work!

And many of us have been around for ages and haven't name changed in a while. There are plenty of lefty new posters too.

It is probably to balance the 'we are all going to die if the Tories get back in' hysteria - and if you think it's Tory HQ, report to MNHQ.

And of course the 'I don't half fancy Jeremy Corbyn' posts are a great example of political nuance

Repeatedly discussing things with a constant message does help nudge opinions.

Weird question, but has this ever been...studied?

I ask as I just cannot imagine my opinion being swayed by spammed posts all over the place. All it does is annoy me slightly to see exactly the same stuff posted over and over :/

"I suspect many find it so hard to believe that MNers could be Tory voters"

Were you not here for the last General Election then, witwootoodleoo? Tory MNers weren't exactly shy.

So that's rather an odd thing to say...

Weird question, but has this ever been...studied

Propaganda? You can change people's minds - or raise awareness of issues that people may not have heard of or even thought about.

You change perceptions slowly......

Livia, do MNHQ actually care if someone's from eg Tory HQ?

I haven't seen any sign they're concerned about who is posting, as long as the posters don't break talk guidelines or post commercial spam.

I presume it counts as trolling? I don't know.

But if posters are so annoyed that anyone expresses a different opinion then that's a shame. I think most people in RL are capable of discussing political views calmly but on here not so much