Behaviour at school play yesterday

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We had:

The woman who put her child standing on a chair for a better view, despite the fact they were up near the front, and then stood herself for the remainder of the performance.

The baby who was allowed cry and disrupt the performance several times before the mother took her out

The family who all clattered in late and settled themselves with much scraping of chairs.

The whiny toddler whose parents loudly accommodated him, 'do you want to sit on my lap' 'here's a biscuit' etc

The adults who chatted together when their child wasn't on stage

And the mother who answered two phone calls during the play.

Not to mention the parents holding their phones up in front of everyone to record the whole thing.

Are some adults incapable of showing a bit of cop on and consideration for half a bloody hour?

irvineoneohone

I would be perfectly happy to share my reasoning, if a number of people on this thread hadn't decided to jump on my comment, for no other reason I can see than that I don't agree with them. How is that 'mean'? We are all adults. If people can't handle a direct response they should not ask a direct question, as I sure the OP knows quite well. Anyway, if you think my posts are mean, report them.

YANBU. Why on earth do people think it's perfectly fine to disrupt the experience for other parents (not to mention the children who are performing)? It's so rude.

IMO, crying babies and loud toddlers should be removed immediately. It seems a shame to ban younger siblings entirely, but I can understand why some schools have reached that point due to the lack of consideration that some parents display.

All the behaviour outlined in the OP is inconsiderate and selfish. I can imagine that many teachers dread school plays. It seems that no matter how many polite announcements and friendly reminders are issued, there will always be the entitled minority who think they are the only ones who matter.

Trifle, I didn't know you can report posts just because you think it's mean.

You had lots of insightful comments on education boards and I respected you as a teacher. But sadly I start to lose it because I just can't see the reasoning behind all your comments these days. From a poster who claims to be a teacher, I do expect some sort of common sense, but you seem to disagree with any posts with extreme opposite ideas. I should resign myself from responding to your post. farewell!

irvineoneohone

You can report because posts break the talk guidelines. Other than that, I will say what what I like and you are free to respond or ignore. Please feel free to press 'ignore' from now on, given the snide 'claims to be' in your last reply. I have no time for people who imply I am a liar just because our opinions differ.

More schools (in UK) are banning pre-school DC and babies from audiences, and asking for no photography and filming, and incidents such as these are the reason.

I'm assuming OP is not in UK, as it's half term everywhere, fitting round GCSE/A level national timetables (threads where people come across the bans for the first time usually appear in Nov/Dec ahead of reception nativity plays, and perhaps this thread should be linked to the next batch - if anyone remembers - to show why)

Trifle, I wasn't going to comment, but wanted to make myself clear, that I never doubted you, or trying to be snide. My language may not have been appropriate, and I know I shouldn't always make excuse being a foreigner, but I never intended to make a snide comment.
I never implied you as are a lier. So I do apologise if that was impression you got from my post.

DDs Year 6 class had an absolute bugger of a boy in it. He was horrendously entitled, a trouble causer, a show off and and a complete loud mouth. I really couldn't stand him.

He didn't have a part in the end of year play because he didn't want one, but he acted as stage hand, a job he did pretty well (after a number of weeks of being an arse about it).

At the evening performance, where there was a child of about 2/3 playing up and an indulgent parent being ineffectual he suddenly appeared on the stage and SHOUTED "Will you take that horrible brat outside!"

The play ground to a halt as all the audience looked at each other in horror....then started sniggering...then eventually a bloke on the same row as the ineffectual parent said "yeah, go on, everyone is sick of you" - mum left in high dudgeon.

Took about 10 minutes to settle everyone back down but afterwards the audience was as quiet as mice.

(Of course boy got into trouble, not that he cared, but probably not as much trouble as he should have...)

irvineoneohone

Fair enough. Apology accepted.

Trifle I wrote that this is your style on a lot of posts that I read here, not just this one. Your responses read as deliberatly rude - take this one for example. Your first line is 'God, you sound like hard work'. You could have written why you disagree without getting personal straightaway. It's your absolute right to do that, but you sound rude. So do a lot of others that post here, but you do it on every single thread I've seen.

HoldBackTheRain

Then you should probably stalk me with a bit of determination, HoldBack, because I agree with and support plenty of posters, usually the ones who aren't posting about trivia and asking for views.

Report if you don't like what I say. I am done justifying myself to you.

DC's school is having a couple of musical evenings this month and no under 8s are allowed. I thought it was a bit extreme, especially considering my own DD, who is performing, is not yet 8 herself, but after reading this thread I think they might have a point and probably loads of previous unpleasant experiences.

I often think it would be a good idea for schools who allow recording of these things to get a parent or teacher with a decent camera to pop it at the back and be official videographer, ban all other recording equipment and then make the video privately available to parents to download afterwards.
This is what we did. We sold very 'professionally' edited and printed DVDs for school funds for a fiver.
And no children were allowed in the performances to parents either.

The problem with schools saying they will do the video is that when there are so many kids in our school they are all sat down the sides too. So presumably the camera will focus on the stage only and half the kids won't be in the video.

Nonsense. Panning...

Lol stalking trifle really?! A few people have said the same as me about you on this thread but you havent pulled all of them either so I could (childishly) say the same about you. Like i said i dont think you're a troll so I won't report. And although your comments are ugly they aren't so offensive they break guidelines (yet). So I'll carry on as I am, thanks.

Thanks for all the comments.

To clarify, all the children in the play were aged 9 - 11, so I think they were old enough to understand that if their baby brother or sister cried their mum would have to bring them outside.

I'm in Ireland and you see this kind of behaviour a lot at First Holy Communion ceremonies as well - parents talking and texting throughout the ceremony, standing up to take pictures despite the priest having explicitly asked for this not to happen, and allowing young siblings to create a racket when the children on the altar are doing readings or singing solos.

Rude and inconsiderate.

Why is trifle being pulled apart on this thread?

She has an opinion and can express it, I don't agree with it but I'm not going to question her posting history either.

I don't know who she is but I don't think she needs to be discussed on someone else's thread.

I think that, when she started off by saying 'God you sound like hard work', that put people's backs up, @StillStayingClassy.

SDT I know she wrote that, it confused me but I ignored it as did others.

This thread has reminded me of an end of term play we put on for Parents of our 3-5 year olds a couple of years ago. One Parent thought it acceptable when her toddler got off her knee and joined in with one of the dances,throwing the kids off what they were supposed to be doing.Mum sat there and smiled with a 'what can I do, she's adorable' shrug of her shoulders. I tell you what, the smile was quickly knocked off her face when my teacher glared at her and said through gritted teeth 'get your child off now'.

StillStaying, sorry my posts were inappropriate and unpleasant for you. It was just that I encounter Trifle a lot on education boards and I liked her. But I should have kept my mouth shut.

If you are deliberately rude to someone on a thread, you can expect to be challenged. It would have been fine for Trifle to say she didn't agree with some of OP's objections. It isn't fine to imply that all her objections are ridiculous and make her "hard work".

sorry my posts were inappropriate and unpleasant for you, not unpleasant at all for me but I'm on this thread to read about cheeky arsed parents at school plays, not debating whether Trifle is rude.

Nanny....my child is often in the back row at the side with kids sitting in front of him his hats on. I struggle to film him, so I very much doubt a teacher will manage to get him on film....even with panning. And..I suspect it will end up just like photos from school trips...lots of photos of the favourites and none of all the others...

I can't help but be a bit on coming back to the thread. It's as if an opinion contrary to the norm is some sort of threat to the hive. Get over it, folks. The OP has.

My DC's primary allowed parents with toddlers and younger children - as well as the school's pre-school classes - to come to a dress rehearsal. Any child at the school saw it in a school showing. No younger children were then allowed at the shows for parents - there was always more than 1 showing, because it was understood that e.g. 1 parent might be at home during 1 performance for babysitting, then the next parent for the other performance. 2 tickets in total for any 1 family, could be split between performances, and you could request more (then allocated in a ballot-style system)

Filming was not allowed during the show for child protection reasons. A series of orchestrated cast photos was organised after the show [children who could not be photographed were removed] and then a short free-for-all was allowed for parents to take individual or ery small group photographs before the children went off stage to get changed. There was a request that no pictures containing children other than your own, or from whose parents you had explicit permission, should be shared on social media.

It seemed very structured, but it was very effective as a policy.

Oh how i wish i had this problem....
Dc is adopted....school refuse to ban other parents from taking photos, they simply ask them to not put them on social media, which was fine till we got the phone call we dreaded - dc on facebook in school uniform performing with the choir. Another mum had put the picture up despite knowing our situation.
We moved house and school as a result - such is the danger to our child.
New school also refuse to ban photos so now our child can not be in school plays at all - my child gets to practice with the class and never perform for mum and dad 😢.
I so wish I had the OP problem....suck it up and tell them to sssh if they bother you.