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To feel the faint stirrings of hope of a Labour victory?

492 replies

KentMum2008 · 29/05/2017 22:33

Just that really? We all thought it was a done deal, T May was going to win by a landslide and we'd be crippled by another 5 years of Tory rule.

Fast forward a few weeks and a Labour victory doesn't seem like such a long shot.

AIBU to feel optimistic that Labour genuinely have a fighting chance? At the very, very least it might result in no overall majority, but the ultimate dream of a Labour govt, run by a true socialist isn't as impossible as previously though.

JC4PM!

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kirinm · 31/05/2017 13:13

I think most MPs / journalists assume the Times is wrong. And I think the polls also rely heavily on the young vote turning up. If they do, I think labour could do it. But they haven't in the past. Believe me, I want the polls to be right but they were so wrong in the last election and the referendum that I don't think they're reliable.

My son is a first time voter this year. I'll be making sure he does vote.

kirinm · 31/05/2017 13:14

It's more than a headline.

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 13:14

May not being there was a headline weeks ago when she was so arrogant that she thought she didn't need to be.

It's now a laughing stock.

pinkletoes · 31/05/2017 13:25

Well this has given me hope!! I have spent my morning catching up on the various JC and TM interviews given this week. Got to say although I am a (high earning!) Labour supporter I have never been all that keen on JC...but that is changing. In comparison to TM I think he is performing much better in this campaign.

Where I am we have no chance of a Labour seat so I will vote Lib Dem (likely to win here) just to keep the Tories out but I can't say I am not absolutely overjoyed that it looks as if people are starting to realise what damage the Tories can (and I believe will) do to this country, public services, education, the NHS if they get in for another 5 years. I also dread to think what we would end up with Brexit wise based on TM's recent challenges, back tracking and non appearances on TV debates. How the heck can we actually have a PM who thinks it's unimportant to appear on a televised debate with EVERY OTHER relevant party leaders?

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 13:28

How the heck can we actually have a PM who thinks it's unimportant to appear on a televised debate with EVERY OTHER relevant party leaders?

Every other party leader isn't there. Cameron didn't do them last time.

noblegiraffe · 31/05/2017 13:31

Didn't he?

To feel the faint stirrings of hope of a Labour victory?
pinkletoes · 31/05/2017 13:33

Actually Cameron did take part....he didn't agree to a head to head with EM but I am pretty certain he was in the 7 way debate. I know every other leader isn't there, but the most relevant are and the fact is that JC IS taking part (her biggest rival) so i wonder if she is now either concerned she has messed up by categoricaly ruling it out or if she's actually just too scared to take them on in a live debate. I fear it's the latter.

pinkletoes · 31/05/2017 13:33

Thanks Nobel!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 13:34

Didn't he?

He attended one. Missed the others.

Jupitar · 31/05/2017 13:34

Every other party leader isn't there. Cameron didn't do them last time.

Yep and it worked for him as everyone turned on Ed Milliband, hopefully the other leaders have now learnt their lesson, but I'm pretty sure Corbyn can handle it anyway, plus Amber Rudd will be there so tories won't be dodging the bullet this time.

TM is making herself look very weak by not doing it, especially as she basing her campaign strategy in how strong and stable she is, and her negotiating skills.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 13:38

Don't forget they will both be on on Friday in a QT like event.

pinkletoes · 31/05/2017 13:38

Agreed, makes her look like a fool. I am pretty sure Amber Rudd will have a tough time because of it also.

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 13:41

Corbyn is an excellent public speaker and debater. It seems to come very naturally to him.

Less so TM, to say the least....

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 31/05/2017 13:43

Sadly she doesnt eve seem to need to bother as even if corbyn does well like the other night it will followed by loads of scaremongering in media to turn people against him.

newdocket · 31/05/2017 13:45

Corbyn has played an absolute blinder. I'm starting to believe that the impossible may actually happen...

CherryMintVanilla · 31/05/2017 13:49

Sadly she doesnt eve seem to need to bother as even if corbyn does well like the other night it will followed by loads of scaremongering in media to turn people against him.

One thing the Tories have is the main tabloids in their pockets. Cameron was a master at that, and they are continuing for May.

Their headline for the Paxman thing was "Corbyn PUMMELLED by May" which any viewer would know was utter bollocks, but how many 100s, even 1000s will just accept that lie instead of doing their own research?

CherryMintVanilla · 31/05/2017 13:50

*The Daily Mail's headline

newdocket · 31/05/2017 13:56

I agree to some extent CherryMint, that a proportion of voters will just look at Daily Fail headlines and believe them. But I get a sense that a tide is turning and that some of the people who might ordinarily do this are waking up to the idea that a) the Tories' policies are not helping 'ordinary working people' and that b) TM is not remotely likable

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 14:11

And that they've only just started hammering 'ordinary working people' to fund their rich pals.

Ktown · 31/05/2017 14:17

I caught something on the radio saying that when Tony Blair won his landslide he got almost 45% of the vote. Teresa may is on for about 45 % as well.
This country needs more than one party and a bit more competition.

Limer · 31/05/2017 14:20

Well, as long as Mumsnet's calling it for Labour, the Tories can sleep easy Grin

MN got it right in 2010, 2015 and the EU Referendum, after all Grin Grin Grin

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 14:25

I doubt there's many sleeping easy at Tory Party HQ......

newdocket · 31/05/2017 14:30

And share of the vote isn't necessarily the thing is it, it's share of the vote in those key constituencies. I'm trying to talk myself into Labour winning here...

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 14:48

Just watched her press call this morning.

Apparently, speaking to and with voters is important for the electoral process but the Leader's debate isn't.

Rightio.

gluteustothemaximus · 31/05/2017 14:59

Boris is clearly rattled after his tantrum on TV the other day Grin

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