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To feel the faint stirrings of hope of a Labour victory?

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KentMum2008 · 29/05/2017 22:33

Just that really? We all thought it was a done deal, T May was going to win by a landslide and we'd be crippled by another 5 years of Tory rule.

Fast forward a few weeks and a Labour victory doesn't seem like such a long shot.

AIBU to feel optimistic that Labour genuinely have a fighting chance? At the very, very least it might result in no overall majority, but the ultimate dream of a Labour govt, run by a true socialist isn't as impossible as previously though.

JC4PM!

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TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 31/05/2017 12:24

Torybot

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 12:26

Torybot

People can't possibly have a different opinion to you can they Hmm

mummysmellsofsick · 31/05/2017 12:31

I too am finding myself hopeful. People often bring up Diane Abbott, and it makes me wonder how well this would have gone if the right of the PLP. Jeremy didn't have much choice but to promote Diane Abbott did he? If the whole party had been behind him they could be doing even better. I am a big fan of JC.

mummysmellsofsick · 31/05/2017 12:33

Oops deleted half a sentence. If the centre/ right of the PLP had not fought JC for the past 2 years. If they'd focussed all that energy on fighting the Tories. Imagine how well this could have gone for the party.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 12:38

If the whole party had been behind him they could be doing even better.

He can never command that though as he hasn't done it himself in the past. It would be hypocritical.

makeourfuture · 31/05/2017 12:39

Faint stirrings hell, the tide has turned!

The Tories are exposed:

  • No Brextit Plan
  • Exploding debt
  • Nasty, ideological attack on the elderly, sick and disabled
  • Disastrous education policy
  • No costings AT ALL
mummysmellsofsick · 31/05/2017 12:41

PigletWasPoohsFriend true and I'm sure JC would admit he can't criticise dissent in the party. However, doesn't stop me thinking what they did was wrong, especially as their main objection was his unelectability and that is turning out to be a lot less true than people thought

kirinm · 31/05/2017 12:47

JC has played May perfectly with the TV debate. Whatever she does now makes her look weak.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 12:49

JC has played May perfectly with the TV debate. Whatever she does now makes her look weak.

He should attend but it depends how it goes.

Rudd is a better debater than May imo and Robertson is very good. He won't give him an inch.

kirinm · 31/05/2017 12:51

Piglet - doesn't really matter how good Rudd is. She's not the Prime Minister (yet)!

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 31/05/2017 12:51

Rudd is irrelevant.

May has to go.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 12:54

May has to go.

So does Corbyn.

Piglet - doesn't really matter how good Rudd is. She's not the Prime Minister (yet)!

Well it does really because if he could do a women's hour crash tonight with Rudd and Robertson.

noblegiraffe · 31/05/2017 12:56

Do Tories only become shy a couple of weeks into the election campaign? Because at the start there were quite a few more of them around.

kirinm · 31/05/2017 12:57

Piglet - sorry but I think you're trying to convince yourself with this one. The Tories made their campaign about May. That only she is capable of negotiating Brexit terms. But she is in fact incapable of debating the leaders of other parties and sends Rudd instead. Rudd who will undoubtedly have to defend May's time as Home Secretary.

The Tories have taken the vote for granted and it is now showing.

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 12:58

It's a Leaders' Debate.

Given that May is the leader of both her party and the country, it's absolutely inexcusable that she has refused to participate.

Corbyn has, as they say, played a blinder with this one. Tory Party HQ must be in absolute disarray this afternoon.

kirinm · 31/05/2017 13:00

I'm imagining the current situation at CCHQ like a scene from The Thick Of It.

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 13:03

Funny you should say that. I was thinking just a few months ago that it makes me sad to even think of finding The Thick of It and Spitting Image funny, as the political scene was so utterly frightening then.

Although I don't feel quite as despairing about it now.

kirinm · 31/05/2017 13:07

Oh the political scene is still terrifying and having a little bit of hope just makes the disappointment that much harder. But I have been very impressed with labour during this campaign - from their manifesto to Corbyn himself.

The Tories have a poor leader and bad manifesto and were too complacent. But I think the polls still very much favour a Tory majority.

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 13:08

The latest summary of 9 main polls and the latest YouGov ones indicate a hung parliament actually.

noblegiraffe · 31/05/2017 13:09

Here's hoping they keep a place for her marked with a tub of lard.

noblegiraffe · 31/05/2017 13:10

Close polls favour the Tories because it will spur their supporters to go out and vote. Last time people were hopeful Miliband might win because of the polls - Tory majority!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 13:10

Given that May is the leader of both her party and the country, it's absolutely inexcusable that she has refused to participate.

Hope you say the same about Sturgeon too.

I think May should do it. But fair is fair.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 13:12

Piglet - sorry but I think you're trying to convince yourself with this one

No I'm not. Yes May not being there will be a headline. If he doesn't perform well. That will too.

christinarossetti · 31/05/2017 13:13

'Fair is fair?'

Really? When May is Prime Minister and she called the snap election?
That's the same as NS not appearing?

supermoon100 · 31/05/2017 13:13

Maxandruby, not wanting to send his kids to private school and sticking to his guns is a noble quality. I suspect the marriage broke up because they realised they were so ideologically opposed, not just the private schooling issue.