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To feel the faint stirrings of hope of a Labour victory?

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KentMum2008 · 29/05/2017 22:33

Just that really? We all thought it was a done deal, T May was going to win by a landslide and we'd be crippled by another 5 years of Tory rule.

Fast forward a few weeks and a Labour victory doesn't seem like such a long shot.

AIBU to feel optimistic that Labour genuinely have a fighting chance? At the very, very least it might result in no overall majority, but the ultimate dream of a Labour govt, run by a true socialist isn't as impossible as previously though.

JC4PM!

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 08:38

Well at the moment from the 2 polls yesterday it could be anything between a hung parliament but Tory being biggest party and 100 seat Tory majority.

moutonfou · 31/05/2017 08:41

The hung parliament poll supposedly took account of individual constituencies rather than assuming an identical swing across all. Gives me a glimmer of hope??

I've missed what the verdict this year is on a progressive alliance - lab/lib dem/SNP. Has JC ruled out working with the SNP?

Nousernameforme · 31/05/2017 08:44

You do know the polls don't mean shit don't you. Unless they are asking everyone who is going to vote then it is impossible to predict what is going to happen

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 31/05/2017 08:46

The polls didnt seem to "not mean shit" to the Tories when they were predicting a landslide.and suddenly they are meaningless.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 08:52

The polls didnt seem to "not mean shit" to the Tories when they were predicting a landslide.and suddenly they are meaningless

Works both ways however. Those that were shouting that they were Tory mouthpieces and a load of rubbish are now funnily enough believing them. (Apart from Paul Mason who still doesn't think they are right)

Edsheeranalbumparty · 31/05/2017 08:53

Corbyn did not broker peace in Northern Ireland. He voted against the Good Friday agreement.

He did not vote against the Good Friday Agreement. Fgs, sick of seeing this bullshit pedalled everywhere. He disagreed with the Anglo-Irish Agreement, which was something else entirely much earlier and, as he predicted, did not do anything to stop the violence.

Nousernameforme · 31/05/2017 08:54

I'm voting labour polls still don't mean shit never have if the election goes that way its a coincidence

TheMonkeyAndThePlywoodViolin · 31/05/2017 08:56

Id imagine this is a fairly neutral source

uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/idUKKBN18Q2JW

Sorry but i would laugh so much if she called election to strengthen position but ended up losing majority.

sharklovers · 31/05/2017 09:09

deeedee I'd vote for ISIS (if that were an option, the absolute scum of humanity) before I ever voted Labour. It's hard to express in words the contempt I have for Labour and those who vote for them.

AllThePrettySeahorses · 31/05/2017 09:20

deedee - none of that is necessarily true though. I mean, Corbyn uses a ministerial car - surely you're not mistaking a filmed stunt on a bus for regular bus use? Corbyn was the one who pissed off Branson when he made a total tit of himself with his train escapade and yet there's a minor witch hunt against Branson for daring to stand up for himself. That's a minor Corbyn lie - there are plenty more that are worse. I know McCluskey doesn't want all tax havens stopped as well. As for the manifesto being fully costed - it isn't is it? TBH, I think it's stupid to bang on about costings because if the money is needed then by hook or by crook it's there isn't it? But Labour have stupidly made themselves a target with their ridiculous boast.

diaimchlo · 31/05/2017 09:23

I have read this thread from beginning to end (which a lot of posters obviously haven't!) and am to say the least disappointed at some of the opinions and the way they have been voiced.

For the Labour supporters who say they cannot vote for Jeremy Corbyn because they say he is a bad leader:

Please bear in mind as some have said up thread, it was the membership that voted for him not those who in the PLP that forced a second leadership ballot only to be shown up for the sore losers that they are. Theresa May is leader by default when the others stepped down.

You are not just voting for Jeremy Corbyn, you are voting for your local MP, who when voted in is there to represent your views and future well-being in Parliament.

IMHO after watching many a PMQs, speeches and interviews Jeremy Corbyn talks from the heart and not from script which Theresa May seems unable to do. He also answers questions I have never heard Theresa May answer one.

Also how can anybody think it is a good idea to vote a party in that does so many U turns on policies in such a short time.

Regarding the so called "Garden Tax" they key word in the manifesto regarding this is CONSIDER.

I sincerely hope that Labour win on June 8th as another 5 years of this self serving inhumane government will IMHO be torturous to many.

TheNaze73 · 31/05/2017 09:24

I'd rather shit in my hands and clap, than vote Labour again. Did that once. We lost our hospital, two schools were cut & I had to pay more tax for the privilege.

ChardonnaysPrettySister · 31/05/2017 09:36

Regarding the so called "Garden Tax" they key word in the manifesto regarding this is CONSIDER.

It is "consider", because it's a vote loser and has to be kept ambiguous, and this is why it's been smallprinted.

But it is in the Manifesto, and will be used once they run out of money. Which will be pretty soon.

AllThePrettySeahorses · 31/05/2017 09:37

If you vote Labour you get Corbyn and the Momentum lot. And I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than vote Tory (great expression, TheNaze73)

myusernameisgeneric · 31/05/2017 09:47

I think it's far too difficult to call. Right now there is so much Tory hate a lot of Tory voters will just keep quiet. I've seen a lot of outspoken labour voters on my fb for instance but only one lone Tory supporter. I'm fairly sure I know way more Tory voters but they are keeping very quiet right Now. They may also lie in an opinion poll because it's not important and they don't want to be judged. An opinion poll is also often wrong. Polls said Brexit wouldn't happen and trump would never be president, I don't trust polls at all right now.

ArseOfInfinity · 31/05/2017 09:51

I don't know, people have never been shy about what they have been voting for around here?

Quite a few people in my Tory safe seat saying they are switching for the first time from Tory to Labour.

I'm inclined to believe them

a) because they've volunteered the information without being asked.

b) These aren't people who are afraid to disagree or speak their minds.

They appear to be proper converts and have some quite convincing arguments.

I'm going to have a watch of that live debate that was on the other night later. I may join them depending on what I see.

LittleKiwi · 31/05/2017 09:51

PLEASE GOD

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/05/2017 10:18

Under the circumstances I'm not sorry I'll be off on holiday for a week tomorrow - I don't think I could stand any more of this suspense Grin

Crackednips · 31/05/2017 10:22

I'm not sure UKIP have collapsed, (though I accept they're def' on the decline right now) as much as they'll be 'lending' the Tories their votes just to keep Corbyn away from power and give May the strongest hand possible for the Brexit neg's... Glib interpretation I know, but this is a unusual type of election this one. Glib also... I'm off....

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 10:22

I don't know, people have never been shy about what they have been voting for around here?

The 'shy Tory' is a know phenomenon. Polls for example always exaggerate the Labour vote and underestimate the Tory one.

I think the key in your experience us you are in a Tory safe seat so people know how mist people votes.

In every election it is the marginals that matter most.

Quite a few people in my Tory safe seat saying they are switching for the first time from Tory to Labour.

Thing is others have been saying the opposite way around too.

There are too many unknowns in this Election tbh.

However when push comes to shove those that are waivering I thing when they get into the booth will vote a they usually do. Whichever way that is.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 31/05/2017 10:23

Terrible typos Blush

Doordye · 31/05/2017 11:15

I do like Corbyn however people should vote for the policies they are more aligned with. We aren't voting for the winner of CBB or I'm a celeb get me out the jungle. I can't stand my local MP but I'll put a cross next to his name because I'm voting on policy not personality.

waitforitfdear · 31/05/2017 11:24

Totally agree with piglet

Was it 6 million people who voted ukip last election? Guessing lots didn't discuss that.

Labour especisklg hard left are generally gobby as are far right so they chatter a lot but they still only have one vote.

flapflops · 31/05/2017 12:12

I like JC, I hope they win. I think the Conservatives have become very complacent.

Maxandrubyrubyandmax · 31/05/2017 12:24

I feel physically sick at the thought of JC being in charge of the country. the man is so ideologically driven he woudl rather break up his family over some pointless issue than compromise for the sake of his kids! This by the way makes him a knob. If you even consider voting for him - have a look at the economic fall out of the type of policies he is bandying around, ie the 1970s - makes the 2008 crisis look like dropping a penny down the back of the sofa!