Why don't people like Corbin ?

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The media are after him . So surely he is a threat or the tabloids wdnt bother . But we can't believe what the machines of the popular press tell us to ???
I'm curious why he appears unpopular ?
He appears principled to me . ...

Don't know what you right wingers are getting into a lather about. If- highly unlikely- he's elected he'll capitulate completely and back down on any of the more socialist policies. A man who remained member of a party that lurched ever rightwards under Kinnock, Blair et al thinking he could reform it from within is misguided at the very least.

The right wingers plotting against him should've been expelled yet he appeases them. He's pro NATO, will keep Trident, has never called for a general strike. He represents a middle class layer that's actually scared of the working class. He should've called the EU out for what it is: a capitalist institution serving finance.

He's not left wing enough IMO and will betray the people as Syriza did in Greece if elected.

But the rabid attacks on him from the right show just how intolerant they are of any mere HINT of pseudo socialism.

Look I understand that people are welded to their political positions and the party they prefer but this making Corbyn out to be a terrorist sympathizer because HE ENGAGES IN PEACE TALKS WITH BOTH SIDES OF BITTER AND COMPLEX DISPUTES is really beyond the pale.

You don't like him, or agree with him. Fine. But stop with the terrorism accusations. That stuff is dishonest and disingenuous at best.

These are incredibly serious accusations that are being chucked about with abandon. Have a bit of respect for peace processes and those who have the guts to attempt them. Posting videos of Corbyn trying to bring people who have been killing each other together, in an attempt for them to work towards a ceasefire, as though they are damming and proof of his terrorist tendencies just makes you come across as really really misinformed and unwilling to engage with world politics on anything other than a Goodies and Baddies mentality.

The Tories are doing untold damage to our education and health systems whilst protecting the riches of big business and all their voters want to talk about is how Corbyn must be a Baddie because he tries to stop Goodies and Baddies from killing each other and engaging in deeply wide reaching and damaging conflict.

I hope you are all as vocal about May doing arms deals with countries which supply current terrorists with weapons.

Because he's a complete hypocrite amongst many other things.

He loves to ramble on about the rigged system in our society however he had no problem in giving Shami Chakrabarti a peerage just a few weeks after she produced a report, which many considered to be a whitewash, saying that there was no antisemitism in the Labour party.

I would add that while he also loves to talk about standing up for the poor against the rich, he does little to stand up for his own female mps when they receive shocking sexist and racist abuse from his supporters in Momentum. The MP Ruth Smeeth is prime example.

Taking of hypocrites, I also with struggle Corbyn's inner circle - Diane Abbott, Shami Chakrabati and Emily Thornberry all sent their kids to private schools as they felt their local state schools weren't good enough, however the VAT they'll impose on school fees will mean that many other parents won't be able to make that choice.

HE ENGAGES IN PEACE TALKS WITH BOTH SIDES OF BITTER AND COMPLEX DISPUTES

So who did he talk to on the other side of the Troubles then?

Oh dear - now it's reported that he found yet another terrorist to honour (I've used the Guardian report, since I know some on MN struggle to accept anything else):

Further pressure came on Corbyn in reports that he had attended a wreath-laying to honour a Palestinian terrorist involved in the Munich massacre. The Labour leader has written about paying tribute to victims of a Mossad assassination that took place in Paris in 1991. However, reports suggested he was in fact attending the grave of Atef Bseiso, the Palestine Liberation Organisation head of intelligence, who was killed in France in 1992 and who was believed to have been involved in the Munich atrocity in which 11 Israeli athletes were murdered in 1972

If it's true, he'll have a hell of a job spinning this one into "I was just trying to encourage peace" ... given that the guy was dead and all

We're all Tory loving right wingers for pointing out Corbyn's grubby indulgence of terrorists.
Sounds a bit Stalinist to me. Grow up, will you and accept that the Great Leader has serious questions to answer.
And yes, I am disgusted by TM sucking up to the Saudis but this thread isn't about her.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-latest-general-election-staying-on-ian-lavery-palestinian-fighter-wreath-conservative-a7761016.html

Mr Corbyn travelled to Tunisia in October 2014, less than a year before becoming Labour leader, and attended a ceremony where wreaths were laid. Writing in the Morning Star shortly afterwards, he said he had laid a wreath for those killed by an Israeli air raid on the headquarters of the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) and on the graves of people "killed by Mossad agents in Paris".

He wrote: "Wreaths were laid at the graves of those who died on that day and on the graves of others killed by Mossad agents in Paris in 1991."

According to The Sunday Times, that was a reference to Atef Bseiso, a PLO agent who was involved in the 1972 attack. Mr Corbyn denied this was the case.

"I was in Tunisia at a Palestinian conference and I spoke at that Palestinian conference and I laid a wreath to all those that had died in the air attack that took place on Tunis, on the headquarters of the Palestinian organisations there," he told Sky News.

"And I was accompanied by very many other people who were at a conference searching for peace."

Asked if he was honouring Bseiso, he said: "Absolutely not, we were searching for peace in the Middle East.

"The only way we achieve peace is by bringing people together and talking to them. That was the whole point of that conference, that's been, frankly, the whole point of my life."

Big difference to talking to people to advance peace to calling people who throw gays off buildings your friends.

But Radishal he has answered those questions many times over in the national press and on national television.

I would understand people trying to argue that they think his actions are naive or misguided but trying to claim he supports terrorists is just silly. It's also potentially quite damaging.

If you genuinely think Corbyn has terrorist connections in Ireland and Palestine I suggest you do something concrete about it like report him to the authorities because otherwise it just sounds like General Election bluster and smear to me.

He can say it but it's bullshit.

The terrorists who murdered the athletes at the Munich olympics weren't searching for peace.

They castrated one of them in front of the others and then killed him and left his body with the others as a warning.

It's the person behind that who Corbyn is mourning.

Just wonder if he's ever laid a wreath at any of he Israeli victims of terror?

Because he has integrity and the vision of a just, fair and equal society. People don't expect that from a MP. I hope he wins.

Integrity in being an anti Semite?

He's really got he needle stuck on "I was only doing it for peace" hasn't he?

Does anyone happen to know if he's done anything to honour those killed by the PLO, Hamas, Hezbollah and all the rest? Hopefully there'll be something, but I've not found anything so far ...

That photo shaking hands with Gerry Adams just after the IRA attacked our democracy- this is a smear?
Failing to stop dog whistle antisemitism at the launch of Labour's report into antisemitism- this is a smear?
Attending a memorial for one of the likely Munich murderers - this is a smear?
I hate the Tories but I am old enough to remember what a useful idiot JC has been over the years.

What he said after the manchester bomb was very ill judged. He isn't very good at saying the right thing. I will vote for him anyway because I agree with his views but I don't think he's s very good politician.

He can't wait to say something that sucks up to extremists and murderers after an atrocity has occurred. At best, he exercises terrible judgment.

Look I understand that people are welded to their political positions and the party they prefer but this making Corbyn out to be a terrorist sympathizer because HE ENGAGES IN PEACE TALKS WITH BOTH SIDES OF BITTER AND COMPLEX DISPUTES is really beyond the pale.

EXCEPT HE DIDN'T

He was nothing to do with the peace talks, and he didn't engage with both sides.

He picks a 'side' each and every time.

He wants to keep Help to Buy until 2027 which is such a disastrous policy implemented by the Tories which pushes up house prices and is basically a big bung to the banks. Why the hell wouldn't he get rid of it???

Why do so many people on this thread belittle his links to antisemites? If it was the other way around and he was honoring right wingers who had killed Muslims or blacks you would never hear the end of it!

There are some on this site and elsewhere who act like antisemitism isn't quite racism. IT'S RACISM, YOU IDIOTS!

Actually I've just been looking at his private life more. I didn't realise he had been married three times, his current wife is twenty years younger than him and he's knocking on seventy. She says "he's not very good at housework". Read into that what you will.

He was also privately educated then went to a grammar school and apprarantly him and wife no two divorced because he wouldn't allow his children to go to grammar school.

If you genuinely think Corbyn has terrorist connections in Ireland and Palestine I suggest you do something concrete about it like report him to the authorities

I think we can probably safely assume that "the authorities" have a pretty accurate idea of what his connections are, though on the whole it isn't policy to blab about what they know

Yes, Puzzledandpissedoff, I'm sure the authorities do.

And saying as they are letting him stand to be elected as our Prime Minister and guardian of our security, I suspect there is nothing to blab about.

I doubt our security services would have a nanoseconds doubt about speaking out if they felt that a high profile party leader with the potential to become our Prime Minister and global representative was a dodgy (and unprecedented!) combination of a Irish republican Islamic state terrorist sympathizer.

Please it's getting silly now. Concentrate on convincing people that Conservative policies are good for the UK rather than indulging in deeply unpleasant smear campaigns would be my advice.

What are you talking about beachcomber? It's not illegal to be an apologist for terrorists! It's not illegal to be anti Semitic.

I actually prefer labor policies. But I won't touch them with a barge pole right now. Because I don't want an anti Semitic apologist for terrorism to be my pm. Don't tell me what I should concentrate on. This is important for me.

I agree, Scandelicious.