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Why don't people like Corbin ?

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ginorwine · 29/05/2017 16:40

The media are after him . So surely he is a threat or the tabloids wdnt bother . But we can't believe what the machines of the popular press tell us to ???
I'm curious why he appears unpopular ?
He appears principled to me . ...

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LabourWillSaveOurKidsFuture · 29/05/2017 18:45

Because a lot of people in this country are self-serving monsters who believe every bit of information the media feeds them.

YellowPrimula · 29/05/2017 18:47

Beachcomber at least one critical person on this thread has actually worked with Corbyn and is speaking from personal experience. Not everyone has fallen for the press line , although it has to be said that many of the most critical journalists have actually met the man which is more than most people on this thread

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2017 18:50

Enthusiasm according to this it's supposed to be at 8.30pm tonight, on both C4 and Sky News:

www.radiotimes.com/news/2017-05-16/jeremy-paxman-to-interview-theresa-may-and-jeremy-corbyn-in-live-election-tv-special

Fruitbat1980 · 29/05/2017 18:51

He slept with Diane Abbott.
He. Slept. With. Diane. Abbott.
He was/ is and IRA sympathiser.
That is all.

user666999 · 29/05/2017 18:52

Antisemitsm.

Beachcomber · 29/05/2017 18:53

BastardBloodAndSand, exactly.

And he's not about to say that he regrets talking to people instead of bombing them just because Andrew Neil or some other Tory supporting journalist tries to imply that he should cos otherwise that must mean that he's practically a terrorist himself. May is of course beyond reproach despite doing arms deals with people who sell weapons to terrorists.

So the summary on the terrorism thing seems to be that Corbyn is for engaging in peace talks with the IRA and May is for selling arms to known ISIS suppliers. That of course makes May strong, stable and good for the economy and Corbyn unelectable. Got it!

AmateurSwami · 29/05/2017 18:55

Today 16:42 StillDrivingMeBonkers

I don't know anyone that can stand him - and most of my social crowd are diehard left wingers. They've all defected to UKIP until he does the decent thing and stands down.

Yeah, that's the natural alternative to labour Grin

I strongly suspect your friends were already racists. No point blaming Corbyn.

As for why people don't like him- because people are terribly susceptible to media bias. Nothing more nothing less.

mumsneedwine · 29/05/2017 18:57

Because he says lots of lovely stuff. And he's going to fund it bu taking companies and rich people. Who will then leave the country (as per 1970s) and so tax will fall massively. And jobs will go. He has lovely ideas and seems a principled bloke (his views on IRA and Hammas aside) but his plans didn't work the first time round and it's easier for companies to up and leave the UK now. 20% of something is more than 40% of nothing. And I'm a teacher who could quite happily do harm to the Tories.

mumsneedwine · 29/05/2017 18:58

By taxing 😁. Haven't even started the 🍷yet

AmateurSwami · 29/05/2017 19:01

Mums, what do you mean you could do damage to the tories as a teacher? Or do you mean the tories could do further damage to state schools?

Aeroflotgirl · 29/05/2017 19:02

I like him as a person, but he cannot lead a country that's for sure. He is of a hug a terrorist variety.

WalkingOnLeg0 · 29/05/2017 19:06

Don't know him personally but he seems like a nice old retired geography teacher that has views from the past best not raised in public.

I dont care whats said about him in the media, I couldn't trust him on defence he is way to close to some very nasty people.

He has never run anything in his life so have no confidence that he could run the country.

I am absolutely scared about his plans to borrow and spend massive amounts of money.

I am also worried that his colleagues have disowned him and the dregs that are left could end up running the country.

Terrified that he would be in charge of Brexit negotiations.

Its like Trump all over again.

Beachcomber · 29/05/2017 19:09

He did condemn IRA bombing - he condemned violence on both sides and would not be goaded by Andrew Neil into condemning ONLY the IRA violence. It was hardly a subtle interview by Neil and I'm surprised that so many people can't see that!

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2017 19:10

I wonder if it ever occurs to those who constantly blame "the biased media" that very many people are capable of researching an issue for themselves ... even that they're able to make up their own minds without needing someone to tell them what to think?

Or is their hard left arrogance really so entrenched that it requires a narrative of everyone who doesn't agree with them being stupid?

surreygoldfish · 29/05/2017 19:14

He comes across as stubborn, dogmatic and not very bright.... doesn't have the respect of his own MPs (bar a few self serving cronies) and would not be credible on the workd stage. That's before we get to his priorities.....as a centrist I am a floating voter but not at the moment.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2017 19:19

I am also worried that his colleagues have disowned him and the dregs that are left could end up running the country

Actually, that may be one thing we wouldn't need to worry about if - god forbid - Labour win. Should that happen, I haven't the least doubt that many of those previous colleagues would come crawling back, licking boots in the hope of a few crumbs from the big boys' table

Though even then Corbyn would probably fill his cabinet from the remaining, incompetent rabble, just to spite those who'd spoken against him

Scandelicious · 29/05/2017 19:23

Because he's an anti Semitic (at best, tolerates anti Semitism because it's not real racism) apologist for terrorism, that's why

Beachcomber · 29/05/2017 19:24

Puzzledandpissedoff, what like that journalist from Sky who was adamant that Corbyn was on the editorial of a magazine that had published views that were not entirely unsympathetic to the IRA demands. He wasn't but she still seemed to think it was a good idea to badger him about her IRA point rather than talk about anything true or relevant.

Did she make up her mind for herself based on sound research? Was that part of a "biased" in scare quotes media or a media that was not only biased but untruthful and should have backtracked and apologised?

The public are influenced by this stuff.

WalkingOnLeg0 · 29/05/2017 19:25

Actually, that may be one thing we wouldn't need to worry about if - god forbid - Labour win

Seriously you can promise if Jeremy wins then, Thornbury, Abbott and MacDonald wont be running the country? Because that thought makes me check under the bed to make sure there are no monsters.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2017 19:35

I didn't say I promised, Walking ... I'm just as worried as you are, but guess I was clutching onto a tiny bit of hope that we wouldn't really have Abbot et al running things Wink

And Beachcomber I wasn't talking about journalists, biased or otherwise; I was giving my view that very many folk are perfectly able to think for themselves - even to be prompted by those infamous media reports into looking into something on their own behalf. But then, you see, I'm able to accept that someone may take a different view to mine without necessarily damning them as gullible or stupid ...

Perfectplonker · 29/05/2017 19:35

I know this hasn't the ping of the thread but...is Jeremy still going on Paxman tonight?

Charmageddon · 29/05/2017 19:36

The "links to the IRA" thing is not true. Neither is it true that he supports armed struggle, indeed he has said time and time again that he does not.

Hmm

He may say that he does not, but his recorded actions & words over the decades say otherwise.

MilkTrayLimeBarrel · 29/05/2017 19:37

Because he is a rabid left-winger.

Bluntness100 · 29/05/2017 19:42

Diane abbot has the same Ira links. It's fairly appalling really that that woman could be Home Secretary,

The thing about corbyn is he is who he is, and he doesn't go out of his way to deny it. i genuinely am bemused when he doesn't deny it, why Labour Party supporters do.

The vote of no confidence against him was huge. I still remember Cameron saying for gods sake man go as he wanted a credible opposition.That vote of no confidence was from the people who work with him, who know him. If we can't take their word for it, whose can we take?

172 labour MPs stood up last year and said they had no confidence in him as a leader of the Labour Party, never mind as prime minister . Only 40 had confidence. We should all listen to those 172 MPs and what they told us. Because they stood up and shouted it from the roof tops.172 labour MPs said they wanted him to go.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 29/05/2017 19:54

Yes, Charmageddon - it's the things which can actually be seen or heard which are the problem, isn't it?

Somehow I doubt Corbyn ever thought he'd be in the position of running for real power, and his silly Trot protests - which are now coming back to haunt him - perhaps didn't matter so much back then. Worse still his terrible judgement means he just hasn't learned, so he still surrounds himself with the kind of people who send many of us running for cover

I could be wrong of course, but I honestly can't believe that the UK will vote into power a party run by such a man