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To think that "working mums set a great example to their children" is largely nonsense

495 replies

Blinkyblink · 27/05/2017 18:04

I grew up with a SAHM. It was bloody fantastic! Picked up by my mum, home after school, she came to assemblies, sports days, plays etc, I was able to have friends over after school. Plus I just loved being with my mum after school. There was something homely, comforting and cosy about it.

I didn't give the fact my mum didn't work any thought whatsoever. I worked like a dog for my GCSEs, a-levels, degree, professional exams and got a good well paid interesting career. I gave it up when I had my first child 7 years ago.

I'm a SAHM now, however next year I'm jumping in at the deep end. Will be commuting and long hours in a professional role. A number of people have said to me along the line "oh you'll be setting so much of a better example now for your children".

Am I alone in thinking "wtf?". A 7 year doesn't give a flying fig about whether his mum works. He/she would MUCH prefer mum to be picking him up from school, making his dinner, helping him with his reading, not having to go to a child minder / holiday clubs in the holidays?

It certainly didn't stop me pursuing a very good career, and the school I went to (private academic girls school) the vast majority of mothers didn't work, and many of those girls have gone on to have great career success (medicine, finance etc)

Is this just an argument pulled out by working mums trying to make themselves feel better? I'm going to be a working mum on a few months, and I'm pretty damn sure I'm not going to think that my children are benefiting from the example I'm setting. I think some people forget how self absorbed most children are and seeing you dash off to work to do something important really isn't either here nor there for them!

OP posts:
honeylulu · 29/05/2017 12:04

Work Outside Home

Thirtyrock39 · 29/05/2017 12:23

Thank you

InDubiousBattle · 29/05/2017 13:55

Peanut what makes you think SAHPs aren't driven? (Genuine question) I'm a SAHM and have always been quite a driven person.

rogueantimatter · 29/05/2017 16:17

Tiger mums for example. Very driven. Not saying you are a tiger mum InDubious or making any comment on tiger mums.

gillybeanz · 29/05/2017 17:17

I have a gifted child who is driven beyond reasoning.
She knew what she wanted to do when she was 3 years old and is currently 13.
I am in awe of her drive and determination and she constantly surprises me with her comments.
E.g has her life planned until about age 30. Although obviously things may change, it's the planning at a young age I admire.
She hasn't seen me build a career or even work until very recently.
She constantly thanks me for all the things I do for her that give her the opportunities to pursue her career at such a young age.
School options and GCSE's were chosen last year and she follows the professors and other educators she wants to study with, the institutions and courses, including Post Grad.
It makes not one jot of difference what you do apart from supporting them whether you wohm or sahm.

Screwinthetuna · 29/05/2017 17:25

You are getting a hard time, op! I agree, it a ridiculous comment. There are great SAHPs and shit SAHPs. There are great WPs and shit WPs. The only example you should set is trying to be the best parent you can

InDubiousBattle · 29/05/2017 22:29

Bloody hell, I must actually be a simpleton but what is a tiger mum?

YoloSwaggins · 30/05/2017 10:32

What's a tiger mum?

Now I just really want some tiger bread....

MajesticWhine · 30/05/2017 10:37

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+is+a+Tiger+Mum

bibliomania · 30/05/2017 11:28

Dd will have to take me as she finds me. No apologies, no guilt. I am who I am and want her to grow up to be her authentic self, not some product I have moulded.

LorelaiVictoriaGilmore · 30/05/2017 11:38

Absolutely no judgment on anyone's choice from me.

BUT my dh has not been at all helpful over my return to work after our ds was born. The nanny and I do all the childcare between us Monday-Friday, while I work four days a week and am away from home for at least 11 hours on each of those days. Dh isn't UNHELPFUL, but he isn't at all helpful either. He just has no idea what a two-parent working family should look like and the education process is taking a while!!

The key thing for me is to raise my son to do better than that!!

HungerOfThePine · 30/05/2017 11:39

It's sets the example for the future op, I'm a single mum and my dc understands that I'm the only that provides for her even at a young age. I am not driven by career but have my own small business and who know where it will be when she is an adult.

When she is older she will know how hard I worked in order to give her good life and hopefully give her the values of if she wants anything in life it needs be worked at and not necessarily to do with career choices.

Babbitywabbit · 30/05/2017 11:48

OP- you said near the start of the thread:

"I don't give a toss about SAHM v working mum. "

  • very disingenuous of you! You also claimed that 7 year olds would much prefer to have their mum pick them up from school, cook their dinner etc than go to after school care, holidays clubs etc

You are contradicting yourself all over the place.

FWIW I don't know any working parents in RL who claim working is somehow 'better' for their children (though obviously being able to pay for a roof over their heads and food in their stomachs is better than going cold and hungry!) Neither do I think being a SAHP is intrinsically 'better.'

I returned to work after each of my children and have never claimed it was 'better' for them. I returned to begin with because we needed my income, and by the time we were on dc2 and 3 I returned because I knew I was doing a worthwhile job and I enjoyed using my skills and intellect in ways which complemented the skills I use outside my work life.

You sound very judgemental OP. You stayed home for a certain amount of years and are now planning to return to work next year... that doesn't make your way right. Your dc would no doubt be fine if you'd returned after maternity leave or indeed if you stay at home for the next decade!

YoloSwaggins · 30/05/2017 11:56

You also claimed that 7 year olds would much prefer to have their mum pick them up from school, cook their dinner etc than go to after school care, holidays clubs etc

Yes - I think this was quite snide and rude to WOHMs. Also, not even true.

I can categorically say that after age 6, I absolutely preferred going to holiday club/after school club and doing a variety of sports & arts activities with other kids, that hanging out with my parents in the holidays!

YoloSwaggins · 30/05/2017 11:57

You are being hypocritical by being angry that WOHMs think their way sets a good example, but subtly implying SAHM is the "best" way.

Everyone does it their way!

LagunaBubbles · 30/05/2017 12:18

Of course the OP is being goady and all of you saying she isnt, stop the outrage and stop being so naive. This statement says it all Is this just an argument pulled out by working mums trying to make themselves feel better?

Why would a working Mum need to "feel better"? And what does OP think a working Mum needs to "feel btter" about? No idea because they havent answered people who've asked.

YoloSwaggins · 30/05/2017 12:26

*This statement says it all Is this just an argument pulled out by working mums trying to make themselves feel better?

Why would a working Mum need to "feel better"?*

Exactly - needing to "feel better" implies that they should be "feeling worse" in the first place.

Blinkyblink · 30/05/2017 12:35

Op here!

I'm back to work very shortly. Full on professional role invoking more than a two hour commute.

My children's lives will be affected. I won't drop off or collect. They won't be able to do after school activities that invoke a car journey.

It may not be politically correct to say this on mumsnet, but I do feel shite about that.

OP posts:
Loopytiles · 30/05/2017 12:39

Does your H also feel shite?

GetAHaircutCarl · 30/05/2017 12:40

Why do it then OP?

Blinkyblink · 30/05/2017 12:41

Divorcing.

OP posts:
Loopytiles · 30/05/2017 12:41

2 hours total commute time, or 4 hours?

That will be a big change for everyone, but no reason why it shouldn't work out well.

Blinkyblink · 30/05/2017 12:41

2 hours total

OP posts:
YoloSwaggins · 30/05/2017 12:42

I won't drop off or collect. They won't be able to do after school activities that invoke a car journey.

I never got dropped off/collected by parents and never went to after-school activities that were a drive away. So what? It didn't affect me negatively in any way. I learned independence and used public transport age 10 onwards. I have a brilliant relationship with my parents now, my mum is like my best friend and I look up to her so much and think her career is cool AF.

There is no need to feel shite, OP.

Loopytiles · 30/05/2017 12:42

Sorry to hear you're divorcing OP.