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to think this is a new low for Piers Morgan. He's tweeted about Ariana Grande

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Orlantina · 25/05/2017 21:17

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Might have been nice if @ArianaGrande had stayed to do the same.

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God bless The Queen and her kind heart #StayStrongManchester

So basically he said that Ariana Grande should have stayed to meet the victims?

Fucking hell. I can't imagine what Ariana must be going through after what happened.

But no. Piers Morgan has to make his point.

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expatinscotland · 25/05/2017 23:53

'and put a positive spin on this concert so it's remembered for good reasons?'

Words.fucking.fail.me.

'if I was in hospital I'd probably want Harry at my bedside Wink'

And then fail me further, pass the bucket.

Really hope some people are trolls, no one can be this fucking ignorant, surely.

Riversleep · 26/05/2017 00:02

I oont know anything about her but her statement where she said 'I'm sorry' really did strike me as someone deeply traumatised. Those kids went to see her and now they are dead. How do you go on stage again after that? She is a victim too. She was there.

HelenaDove · 26/05/2017 00:07

Great post Rhythm and Stealth.

limitedperiodonly · 26/05/2017 00:10

Why wouldn't it cheer up a teenage girl to have her idol by her bedside in hospital? It's not strange to suggest that. I'd have been thrilled at 14 if my favourite pop singer had come to see me. That's why they were at the gig. That's why their mums were waiting for them in the foyer - because their daughters loved Ariana Grande so much they wanted to see her.

It would have been nice if she'd returned the favour. But if can't, she can't. No more than that.

nancy75 · 26/05/2017 00:14

Limited if people in the audience caught up in the attack but not injured had taken the next day off work because they were shocked & upset would you think they were wrong & should have gone to work?

Dianneabbottsmathsteacher · 26/05/2017 00:15

I think this thread,like piers Morgan,is in very bad taste.

The comment about prince Harry is so beyond crass I can't believe it was made by s functioning adult. Shame on you

nancy75 · 26/05/2017 00:17

Would you have been thrilled to see your favourite pop star if 72 hours before you had lost a limb in a bomb blast? An explosion that had killed your friend or your mum? Or do you think that making small talk with your favourite pop star whilst battling to survive might not actually be that thrilling?

TreeTop7 · 26/05/2017 00:19

She wanted to go home to Florida and to see her boyfriend. It's understandable. She's a victim of terrorism too.

The Queen's role is very different in times of crisis.

AG needs support not vilification. I wish her well.

MommaGee · 26/05/2017 00:19

However, if I was a fan of hers I'd be cheered up if she took the trouble to come to see me in hospital. And if she cried, so what? you have no idea what seeing your idol in absolute hysterics would do to an already fragile teenager. Or an emotionally closed off one who is trying to keep it together. She has her own shit to deal with right now and those kids have their families.

It really doesn't strike me as a huge thing to do possibly because your not wracked with guilt that 22 people died because of you. Not that they did, but she clearly and understandably feels guilty

e1y1 · 26/05/2017 00:19

Yes, he is a grade A cunt.

What good would it have done her sticking around? - the hospitals were focusing on seeing to the injured, and families were grieving - it was not the time to be holding a circus with cameras showing a celebrity visiting victims in a hospital, and it becoming something other than the tragic event it is.

A "celebrity" who will be traumatised, who was also in that building, who could have been one of the injured or killed, if by the off chance the bomber made it into the actual Arena area.

I'm Manchester born and bred, a family member has lost a friend in the attacks - and myself and everyone around here have nothing but absolutely massive respect for Ariana Grande now. She has handled this absolutely flawlessly. She has not for one second made it about her, and regardless, she IS a victim, she was there, 20000 people were there for the sole reason of seeing her. So whatever Piers "Moran" feelings are towards her, she will be devastated.

Nothing but respect for her now.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 26/05/2017 00:26

I dare say some of the parents of the children still in critical care or with life changing injuries might not have wanted her there. Rationally they know it's not her fault, but many will be feeling angry, not rational.

I think 'My DD wouldn't have been there if it wasn't for you' is the reaction many would have if she turned up,

Her safety could be in jeopardy from the victims parents. The hospital don't need the hassle either.

Fruitcorner123 · 26/05/2017 00:28

Her safety could be in jeopardy from the victims parents.

I don't agree with this at all!

Theresnonamesleft · 26/05/2017 00:39

I think I understand what Annie is saying.
When something happens to your child you want to blame someone. It's normal. They want to scream and shout at that person who hurt their own. Even if for a fleeting moment. They cannot do it to him. Even if for a few fleeting moments, emotion would get the better of people. No it's not logical to lay blame with AG because it's not her fault. But even for a moment, in that grief she would be blamed because all the family would see is her walking around whilst their loved one fights for their life, because they went to see her.

gluteustothemaximus · 26/05/2017 00:39

I'm sure that Ariana will no doubt be back to Manchester to perhaps visit the victims, when they are hopefully all recovered. Right now it's too soon, IMO. Many are still critical.

People are always judged no matter what they do.

I do think it would be lovely for them to see her though, for Ariana, I imagine that would be very traumatic, seeing people with limbs missing, just because they went to her concert.

No easy answer.

ftw · 26/05/2017 00:41

Twitter needs to be unplugged.

limitedperiodonly · 26/05/2017 00:42

If I was 14 again and an Ariana Grande fan I'd be thrilled to wake up in hospital after being injured at her concert and see her face. Just like I'd prefer to see Prince Harry's face rather than his granny's . I'd be polite to her but if I was 14 I wouldn't be able to fake it so well. That may be crass but it's the truth.

It would have been nice if she'd have turned up. It was disappointing that she didn't. But if she didn't feel up to it, then that's that. That's what I think. Others disagree. We're not going to change each other's minds.

PerspicaciaTick · 26/05/2017 00:44

I doubt her safety would be at risk from parents.

When I was ill in hospital, some lovely people came to visit me. They thought I would like to be cheered up, and they were right in a way as I was very excited they were coming (I was very bored).
But once they arrived I could see in their faces that they were distressed and shocked by my appearance. They were deeply uncomfortable with my tubes. And I felt very self-conscious, did I smell bad? were my teeth clean? could they see my catheter bag?
They tried so very hard and I put on the best show I could, but it was not a happy experience for any of us.
Imagine having to repeat that with in the region of 50 people. I'm not convinced it is as simple as famous celeb visits fans = everyone is very happy.

HerRoyalNotness · 26/05/2017 00:47

What that dick is saying is tame in comparison to what the fuckwits this side of the pond are 'reporting'

to think this is a new low for Piers Morgan. He's tweeted about Ariana Grande
Redglitter · 26/05/2017 00:49

Her safety could be in jeopardy from the victims parents

What rubbish. No-one could possibly hold her in any way responsible.

Piers Morgan is a total dick. If she had gone to the hospital you can bet your life he's have criticised her for that

The poor girl is devastated. She needs time to come to terms with What's happened and then she can decide what, if anything she wants to do about meeting people.

Squishedstrawberry4 · 26/05/2017 00:50

Would they want to see her?

She's offered to pay for the funerals, which was kind and I'm sure when she's feeling stronger, she will want to find other ways of supporting families. However she's only 23 and I'm not surprised she need to hide away and be still. She must feel such a huge weight on her shoulders despite not being responsible for the incident.

It's all right for Peers and Perry to say she should be visiting victims. However they weren't there when the bomb detonated and they're not working their way through the aftermath.

CheeseQueen · 26/05/2017 00:54

OK, not read all the responses but can't see what it is he's said that's so bad though that deserves outrage and getting worked up over.
So he's basically saying that the Queen was out and about with victims but Ariana has stayed quiet and away?
Apologies if I've got that wrong.
Has she been out and about or messaged to all those who are affected? No idea, which is why I'm asking.
Would have thought she would have in the circumstances if not.
Which presumably is Piers point.

limitedperiodonly · 26/05/2017 00:55

Would you have been thrilled to see your favourite pop star if 72 hours before you had lost a limb in a bomb blast?

Oh dear God no, nancy75 I was in no way saying that meeting Ariana Grande or Prince Harry as a B option should be compulsory for hospital patients. That would be a silly thing to say. What kind of fool would suggest that?

It's more something you could do if you were feeling up to it. But I'm glad to clear up your confusion for you Smile.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/05/2017 00:56

Maybe they felt that seeing her would be triggering for the patients

I think that is absolutely correct. I can't imagine the young girl from Barra who lost her friend would think anything other than if we hadn't come to see you my friend would be alive. It is not blaming AG but I really don't think meeting AG now would help anyone.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 26/05/2017 00:58

So he's basically saying that the Queen was out and about with victims but Ariana has stayed quiet and away?

Can you really not see the difference?

RhythmAndStealth · 26/05/2017 01:00

Some of the survivors will suffer from PTSD as a result of the attack.

PTSD can appear immediately after the attack or in the following weeks/months/years.

PTSD sufferers often suddenly relive traumatic events as the result of triggering present events e.g. small reminders or similarities.

There are very good medical reasons for not wanting to expose the victims to terrifying emotional and visual flashbacks whilst they are still in critical, serious or grave physical condition.

Sadly, a personal appearance by the singer could be triggering. And there isn't really a way of finding out in advance whether it would be triggering that wouldn't run the risk of being triggering in itself (e.g. showing pictures, mentioning name).

It takes some trauma survivors years to be able to revisit the scene of their trauma. Some never, ever manage.

And so it would not be reasonable to expect seriously injured children to be able to cope with that after a few days.