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to think this is a new low for Piers Morgan. He's tweeted about Ariana Grande

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Orlantina · 25/05/2017 21:17

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Agreed.
Might have been nice if @ArianaGrande had stayed to do the same.

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God bless The Queen and her kind heart #StayStrongManchester

So basically he said that Ariana Grande should have stayed to meet the victims?

Fucking hell. I can't imagine what Ariana must be going through after what happened.

But no. Piers Morgan has to make his point.

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MommaGee · 26/05/2017 01:01

So he's basically saying that the Queen was out and about with victims but Ariana has stayed quiet and away? he's saying Arianna should because seemingly her own trauma isn't important and she has no rights to personal autonomy to look after her own emotional well being. All that should be subjugated to do what Piers thinks
And no doubt if she had he'd bitch about that too

corythatwas · 26/05/2017 01:04

The Queen was not at the concert, she is not a victim, she will not be suffering from delayed shock and PTSD. She is in the same position as the rest of us who weren't there: it's not about us., Add to that that she has had extra training to deal with visiting victims.

Ariana otoh is in exactly the same position as all the other uninjured victims. Do we blame them too for not being sufficiently upbeat in the aftermath of the disaster?

CheeseQueen · 26/05/2017 01:07

he's saying Arianna should because seemingly her own trauma isn't important and she has no rights to personal autonomy to look after her own emotional well being

Yeah, I can see that she is a victim in the attacks too. Of course she is and should look after herself.
However, I can't see that he said anything to get too worked up about as a quick visit to those injured would have meant the world to them.

PerspicaciaTick · 26/05/2017 01:11

The Queen and her staff are also well-practised in organising these visits. It is sad that they have had so many opportunities to practise over the years, but they must have a clear plan of action to make sure everything runs as smoothly as possible without causing any further distress to patients or staff.
I doubt AG's staff have a clue where to even begin with such large number's of people in hospital and a client who is falling apart.

BastardGoDarkly · 26/05/2017 01:34

Limited are you quite fucking well?!

The flippant way you're imagining these victims to feel in hospital, is really odd.

Fwiw I think she did absolutely the right thing, in going home to recover, like everyone else that was there that night wanted to do, more than anything, just feel safe with the people that love you.

Piers is a cunt, always was always will be.

Lweji · 26/05/2017 01:36

If Ariana had visited the victims he'd say she was cashing in on the publicity or something. Hmm

You simply can't win with stupid people who want to make money out of being outrageous.

SenseiWoo · 26/05/2017 01:50

AG may well have taken advice from police about what to do. We don't know, but I can imagine that the last thing anyone needed was a celebrity swanning around with all the security needs and media attention that would bring.

Plumkettle · 26/05/2017 01:53

Well said Sensei

HandbagKrabby · 26/05/2017 02:01

I can't believe people agree with this. What a load of shite. I'm assuming the massive disconnect between what actually happened and your interpretation of it is to keep you psychologically safe and not because of sheer fuckwittedness.

Maybe she could've held an impromptu singalong? That would be nice. Ffs.

BoldKitties · 26/05/2017 02:10

Limited, your posts on this thread are really very strange. As well as being utterly flippant. "if I was in hospital I'd probably want Harry at my bedside [wink} but her visit was really important". Ah yes, nothing heals awful physical wounds, not to mention the psychological/emotional ones, like the opportunity to flirt with a prince Hmm. And suggesting that it would be a good PR move for Ariana Grande to visit the victims, well, words fail me.

Ariana Grande is a very young woman. Yes, she's not a child, but she's 23. When I was 23 I was a gobshite. I'm in my 30's now and if it were me, I'd struggle with the notion that people came to see me, and then they died (not that it's her fault, at all). It's quite a burden to bear. Nothing like the burden that the families of the victims have to bear, but still a burden.

So maybe we should go easy on her? She's a victim too. And that's before we even consider that being visited by her might not be in the best interests of those in hospital. Which is of course the most important thing. Not whether Ariana Grande not visiting was bad from "a PR perspective". Fucking hell.

Happyfeet1972 · 26/05/2017 02:26

limited I think you're massively underestimating the types of injuries some of the victims have sustained the way you talk, not to mention that some of them have sadly lost friends and relatives too. They aren't in hospital with a fucking arm in a sling; some of these people are in critical condition and are facing life changing disabilities and disfigurements, and that's if they survive. If you think that it's appropriate to say that a flirt with Prince Harry in that situation would cheer you up then you're either stupid or deluded. I doubt there's much to be cheerful about right now.

SumThucker · 26/05/2017 02:44

I thought she would've stayed to meet her fans - and put a positive spin on this concert so it's remembered for good reasons?

That is fucking breathtaking. I'm honestly just...

sugarbeep9 · 26/05/2017 03:04

23 is not a child. why are people infantilising her?! she probably lived and experienced far more than 30 year olds.

i agree with piers and katy.

Strokethefurrywall · 26/05/2017 03:11

This thread honestly had to top the list of the most batshit fucking crazy threads I've ever read.

A young woman performs a concert during which young children, young men, mothers and families are ripped apart by an unfathomable terrorist event.
A catastrophic event during which her security team and management would have bundled her into a car and gotten her on a plane immediately, whilst she had no idea what was going on, and no doubt feeling horrendously guilty and totally traumatized as the news of the injured and dead rolled in.

And some I'll-educated fuckwits, who really shouldn't be allowed to breed, are complaining that she didn't immediately fly back to the media circus surrounding survivors suffering horrific injuries and those recovering in hospitals, potentially causing another security crisis, all because it would have been nice for survivors to see her. And people are disappointed in her.

Words absolutely fail me. It's been 72 hours. People are still unaccounted for. And yet all the braying masses can go on about is that Ariana Grande, a terrorist target, didn't fly back immediately and present herself to the media and the world as a sympathetic mother Theresa, which would have only invited acorn, anger and more disappointment at her "publicity seeking".

I'm only grateful that I don't have to live amongst such utter low life morons that think this way.

becausebecausebecause · 26/05/2017 03:16

Jeeze I came on to say the same, pretty much, as Strokethefurrywall but not as eloquently. Time to get a grip people and stop over analysing everything to the nth degree. Morgan isn't in the media to be our cup of tea by the way but to get you frothing. Don't feed him.

OhMrsQ · 26/05/2017 03:28

furrywalls marry me.

So I may get myself banned, and I don't care. I just want limitedperiodonly to do one. Imagine if you will, limited, you are 14. You have been to see your idol. You are now in a hospital bed, perhaps the nurses won't let you see a mirror as you are completely disfigured. You watched your best friend die in your arms.

But cheer up! Your idol is coming to visit!!!

I sat here thinking of myself at 14. The idol of the time. The situation. Just to see if by any small chance you actually had a point. You don't. You're batshit crazy.

I'm a photojournalist. I have seen people in the aftermath of tragedy in such a bad way. I'm 41 and I would not be able to hold it together. Why should she?

So, limitedperiodonly and all those who agree with Piers and Katy Hopkins.

FUCK OFF TO FUCK YOU INSENSITIVE WANKERS.

OhMrsQ · 26/05/2017 03:30

For those of you who may be interested, it was the lead singer of Skid Row. And Jon Bon Jovi

BoldKitties · 26/05/2017 03:33

Yes, sugarbeep9, 23 is not a child. This particular 23 year old, while not being a child, is a very young woman. Who has been through a trauma. Any other criticisms that you'd like to heap on her?

Lovely that you agree with the odious prick. That must make you feel all warm and fuzzy. You also agree with "Katy"? Good for you. I have no idea who that is. And if they they are as dispicable as Piers Morgan, I don't want to.

OhMrsQ · 26/05/2017 03:34

Sorry MNHQ.

Here's one without the personal attack, if you need to delete the other one.

furrywalls marry me.

So I may get myself banned, and I don't care. I just want limitedperiodonly to do one. Imagine if you will, limited, you are 14. You have been to see your idol. You are now in a hospital bed, perhaps the nurses won't let you see a mirror as you are completely disfigured. You watched your best friend die in your arms.

But cheer up! Your idol is coming to visit!!!

I sat here thinking of myself at 14. The idol of the time. The situation. Just to see if by any small chance you actually had a point. You don't. You're batshit crazy.

I'm a photojournalist. I have seen people in the aftermath of tragedy in such a bad way. I'm 41 and I would not be able to hold it together in that hospital. why should she?

misskelly · 26/05/2017 03:35

Jesus, I've never seen such comments made in such poor taste. Many of those still in hospital are in critical condition, it's still not clear if they will all survive their injuries. Many have suffered severe physical and psychological trauma and you think it matters who visits them.

Those who are critical of Ariana wanting to get home do you lack compassion or just lack imagination. If you agree with that waste of space Morgan it's probably both.

OhMrsQ · 26/05/2017 03:35

boldkitties I think they meant Katy Hopkins

BoldKitties · 26/05/2017 03:42

Ah, okay that makes sense OhMrsQ. Thank you.

I agree wholeheartedly with your posts btw. And thanks for them. Fucking hell, some people have very warped mindsets.

OhMrsQ · 26/05/2017 03:50

Thanks, love.

I imagine they will be gone by morning

MrsLucyEmerson · 26/05/2017 04:56

Did the Eagles of Death Metal visit the victims of the Bataclan?

Genuine question.

I did not read about it at the time so I think not.

MrsLucyEmerson · 26/05/2017 05:03

And imagine the media circus if Ariana had visited the injured in hospital. Imagine the security risk.

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