To be disgusted about schools 1 minute silence

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Extremely sensitive I know at this time....11am today the UK had a minutes silence in respect of the victims of Mondays attack, my dcs school included which I totally 100% support...what I don't support though was the schools stance on including the terrorist in their moment of silence, to pray & forgive him as it's" what God would have done" AIBU to be bloody disgusted, dcs know what he did was an evil & an abhorrent act something that wouldnt ever be forgiven.

AIBU to Think what the fuck were the teachers thinking?

It's an RC school. You either believe in Catholic christian values or not. You can't complain that the school includes the person who carried out the attack when it is a Christian belief.
YABU....but you are entitled to your personal feelings on this and I agree with you, in that I find it unforgivable.

It's a shame God couldn't bring himself to forgive people, rather than the untold retribution he dishes out in the Bible, in the great flood for example.
If that twat can't forgive, why should we?

Bertrand I mentioned that man early in the thread, although I didn't recall his name. Clearly his words had a big impact on others too.
Terrorists want people to hate. They want to spread hatred and division. By uniting together and forgiving we are standing up to them. The way people pulled together in Manchester makes me so proud of this country and our values.

Bartholins,

Flood's in the Old Testament. Forgivingness in the New.

So the Christian message is to only forgive those who seek forgiveness?

I don't understand- people forgive for themselves, not for the benefit of the individual who did wrong. Holding onto anger and hate is toxic.

I have no problem with this, except the god bit - but it's an RC school so pretty unavoidable.

As an agnostic who spent my working career with folk who had made bad decisions and frequently done wrong, I always found that trying to understand why people behave as they do has more mileage in it than blanket condemnation. Most terrorists and suicide bombers fit a personality profile that makes them vulnerable to indoctrination and radicalisationn - I do not imagine they choose that personality. It arises from a combination of genetics and upbringing. Others will see them as simply born evil.

But no, I would not object to the idea of forgiveness being taught in this situation. Bett4er than fostering hatred.

knocks me sick to think that he was included in the minutes silence. that minute is for those innocent people whose live have been cut short there future stolen from them and there friends and families lives shattered. the minutes silence is not a religious act it,s human compassion .
not religious but get how they want to pray for him to be forgiven as part of there faith .but this should of been done separately .

I still think it doesn't make sense to forgive someone for a crime against someone else. Suppose child A punches Child B in the playground. Is Child C in a position to forgive Child A? Obviously not. This is the same.

No, the Christian message is as you suggest - we should forgive without repentance and turn the other cheek, for our own sake as much as for the perpetrator's. The repentance is for God (e.g. in confession).

Oops - that was to @MyDarlingWhatIfYouFly btw

He was apparently quite a slow learner, not very bright, and the victim of bullying and name calling at school. It's not him I am angry at, he was vulnerable and groomed by extremists to kill himself and others. He was reported repeatedly for his views, but nothing was done.

Personally I'm not a believer and wouldn't dream of sending my kids to any sort of religious school, but I think that hate breeds hate so i don't disagree, but in any case if I had sent my child to a Catholic school I wouldn't dream of complaining that they were doing things the Catholic way.

Hackmum, you are missing the point.

Child C might be the best friend of child B. Child C can choose to be angry at child A for hurting their friend or they can choose to forgive child C for the hurt cause to them by their friend being hurt.

(Often in my experience it is the other way in friendships. Child B often gets over the incident before child C who saw it happen)

No one gets hurt in isolation. If you hurt someone physically, you hurt mentally all those that care about them.

No one can forgive on behalf of another person, but they can forgive for their own upset.