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To be disgusted about schools 1 minute silence

212 replies

PugnRoll · 25/05/2017 17:40

Extremely sensitive I know at this time....11am today the UK had a minutes silence in respect of the victims of Mondays attack, my dcs school included which I totally 100% support...what I don't support though was the schools stance on including the terrorist in their moment of silence, to pray & forgive him as it's" what God would have done" Hmm AIBU to be bloody disgusted, dcs know what he did was an evil & an abhorrent act something that wouldnt ever be forgiven.

AIBU to Think what the fuck were the teachers thinking?

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Dianneabbottsmathsteacher · 25/05/2017 19:18

Non religious folk

grannytomine · 25/05/2017 19:19

Maxandrubyrubyandmax I think the point is none of us know what the bombers last thoughts were. He could have repented, we will never know. I have also read somewhere, can't remember where, that alot of the suicide bombers have the bombs strapped to them in such a way that they can't take them off if they change their mind so if there was a timer and he changed his mind and repented he might not have been able to do anything about it. Prayers don't have to be either or, it isn't like the prayers for the other victims are going to be reduced or devalued by including the bomber.

MaidOfStars · 25/05/2017 19:20

I am quite happy to hate the bomber for the rest of time, with absolutely no qualms. It won't take up that much energy
I am in Manchester. I spent the first half of the minute silence (in reality, more like 5 mins) weeping behind my sunglasses, and the second half repeating in my head 'the fucking cunt, the fucking cunt'. Is that hate? Anger? I don't know, but I don't feel too bad about it.

I am atheist and went to was forced to attend a Catholic school. My understanding is that people need to seek forgiveness and truly repent, in order to be forgiven,

MaidOfStars · 25/05/2017 19:21

If you change your mind and repent while strapped to a suicide bomb, then get away from people as quickly as you can run?

grannytomine · 25/05/2017 19:23

Maybe he did? We don't know where he was before do we, maybe he was trying to get out. We will never know but hate won't help anyone.

harderandharder2breathe · 25/05/2017 19:23

I agree that the minutes silence shouldve been about the victims not the bomber

But don't send your child to a RC school and then get cross when they follow RC teachings

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 25/05/2017 19:25

Absolutely, stars. To possibly think about forgiving someone. They have to repent themselves and be sorry.

Tapandgo · 25/05/2017 19:25

Christian school teaching Christian values - forgiveness being one. Amish Grace was a film (2010) showing how the Amish forgave the murderer of their children. Their actions spoke more powerfully than the actions of the murderer. Powerful message - love trumps hate, and a good lesson for children to learn

Original poster
PugnRoll · 25/05/2017 19:25

Thank you for your input everyone. I'll check out the links posted later (at work) I guess I've taken a step back towards religion, even though having religious education lessons until 17 (catholic college). The school is our local primary, & is mainly a good school.

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MaidOfStars · 25/05/2017 19:30

granny Fair point, accepted.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 25/05/2017 19:33

You do realise that some people's local catchment school just happens to be a church school don't you and you have no choice.

Yep. Only our local catchment school is an RC school, and despite the fact DD was christened catholic and her Dad still attends Mass etc, it was a no from them when we applied. My DCs are currently in a school 2miles away instead.

Some people have the choice, some don't.

user1471545174 · 25/05/2017 19:36

YANBU, OP. It would be appropriate just to honour his victims.

I was brought up Catholic but TBH I always struggled with all that forgiveness malarkey and now without religion I perceive how blanket forgiveness has weakened Western societies.

AwaywiththePixies27 · 25/05/2017 19:36

But don't send your child to a RC school and then get cross when they follow RC teachings

Sorry OP but I'm in agreement with this. I know of an atheist couple who send their DC to an RC school because of the good ofsted report and then complained when said DC was asked/invited to pray Hmm

Whiskwarrior · 25/05/2017 19:37

I'm not remotely religious but I can't fathom walking around full of the hatred so many people live with on a daily basis.

Love not hate. Always.

AppleMagic · 25/05/2017 19:39

Of the 15 primary schools within 5miles of my house, 12 are CofE. Not everyone has a choice.

grannytomine · 25/05/2017 19:39

Tapandgo, I thought that film and the actions in real life were truly amazing. I don't think many of us are capable of it and I don't know if I would be but I do admire them.

Thanks MaidofStars, we will never know will we. I have a son in that age group and the idea that someone could manipulate him like that truly horrifies me.

SallyCanWait · 25/05/2017 19:40

Yabu

I was brought up RC but this is one of the reasons I no longer practice. I don't agree with their beliefs.

If maybe reconsider sending your children to a Catholic school if you don't agree with their way.

Iris65 · 25/05/2017 19:41

It could have been phrased better. When I am praying about these kinds of atrocities I try and include everyone involved. That avoids specifiying and exclusion.

user1471545174 · 25/05/2017 19:41

If you don't forgive you don't walk round filled with hate. You just don't forgive.

(This might be as hard to explain as non-belief is to a believer).

Whiskwarrior · 25/05/2017 19:43

Not everyone does, user, no, but the amount of vitriol I've seen over the past few days, and some on this thread, astounds me, honestly.

It must be exhausting.

usershitloadofnumbers · 25/05/2017 19:46

Time for forgiveness is when the fight is over. It's not when they are planning their next atrocities. You don't forgive when hatred is still growing and you are the target.

grannytomine · 25/05/2017 19:48

The suicide bomber isn't planning anything, for him the fight is over.

BoneyBackJefferson · 25/05/2017 19:51

usershitloadofnumbers
Time for forgiveness is when the fight is over.

How many people have died due to that attitude?

Whiskwarrior · 25/05/2017 19:51

Fight? We're not IN a fight.

As civilians we can only cracking on with our daily lives and live and love the best we can.

I'm not going to spend my time fretting over another attack or hating anyone who carries them out.

ComputerUserNotTrained · 25/05/2017 19:52

Which fight is this exactly?