To be disgusted about schools 1 minute silence

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Extremely sensitive I know at this time....11am today the UK had a minutes silence in respect of the victims of Mondays attack, my dcs school included which I totally 100% support...what I don't support though was the schools stance on including the terrorist in their moment of silence, to pray & forgive him as it's" what God would have done" AIBU to be bloody disgusted, dcs know what he did was an evil & an abhorrent act something that wouldnt ever be forgiven.

AIBU to Think what the fuck were the teachers thinking?

Yanbu

I think something's even god if he exsists doesn't forgive, like taking lives of innocent children.

Presumably they will teach the same principles regardless of who the victims are? Aren't all lives equally important in the catholic faith? (Disclaimer I know very little about the specifics)

I think you need to send them to a non religious school, if you're disgusted

Forgiveness is fundamental to the Christian faith, and there are no sub-clauses of exceptions.

"For if you forgive men when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you do not forgive men their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins".

Well it's a Christian school...

And I think I know where they're coming from. Why waste hatred on him? Ok, forgiveness is hard, incredibly hard and (my view) is that it is for the ones who are affected to decide on if they want to forgive or not.

But ultimately, where does hate and vengefulness get you? It goes down the road of tit for tat, eye for an eye. Then more people die. Where does that get you?

Hold the front page - Catholic schools spouts Catholic stuff...

What were you expecting?

Christianity teaches forgiveness, not just forgiveness when it is easy to do so.

Yabu

I think this week is for the victims, as it's still less than three days since the attack. They could work on forgiveness of the perpetrator a different time.

Do you think they should change their teachings because the victims were children?

AIBU to Think what the fuck were the teachers thinking?

Yes, you are being unreasonable to think this as it's quite obvious that is was done in line with the ethos of the school. Whether you agree with it is another matter but you can't expect an RC school to change because of your opinion, surely?

Aside from the religious aspect and preaching forgiveness, schools have to be balanced and actively prevent any future extremism (religious or political). This sounds like a thoughtful and measured response that may be less likely to pave the way to right wing extremism. Sounds like a reasonable application of the Prevent strategy tbh. www.ltai.info/what-is-prevent/

I understand why they did it...but the including him in the 1 minutes silence is what I can't understand, that time should have been spent praying for the innocent victims.

FWIW Pug I don't feel embarrassed for you at all, I'd be fuming. But in fairness if it's a Christian school and that's the values they teach then you may have to move them to a non religious school

How could you know this?

Sod Christian values!! YANBU OP.

If they honestly felt this was the right thing to do, they could have done it by praying specifically for the victims and their family and friends, and then ended with the Lord's Prayer - as@ToastDemon says, it includes the line "Forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us" - but I think it was very insensitive to include the bomber specifically, at this time.

So it's a Catholic school and it's following catholic attitudes? 🤔

I'm a little embarrassed for you, OP

this^^ What did you expect?

Christian God does forgive anything, that's kind of the point. But only if the offender is sorry. Theoretically the terrorist would likely realise when he was dead how screwed up his thinking had been and would be sorry. Perhaps he would be so far gone that even with the knowledge that God was to his version of Allah and wasn't delighted with his murders, he wouldn't be sorry. In that case he would go to hell. I don't really believe in hell but I'd kind of like to make an exception for this kind of person...

On the other hand Jesus teaches us to turn the other cheek (literally to let someone hit us again) and forgive them. It's never really sat well with me that it looks like we are supposed to be more forgiving than God in that respect (I.e. Not waiting for the offender to be sorry before we forgive them).

Catholic God also always loves all humans, even the terrorists. That isn't the same as forgiving them.

I don't know (raised as a Catholic) what I would think about the specific inclusion of the terrorist in the silence and recommendation to forgive him. I observe every the silence at home on my day off and it didn't occur to me to waste any of my time on him.

RC school...I just don't think it was right of them to encourage forgiveness of the attacker when really they should be thinking & praying for the poor victims & their families foremost.

So an RC school teaching RC doctrine. Who would have thought?

Are you Catholic?
I'm impressed actually. I went to Catholic schools and the nuns were the most unforgiving people ever.
Good to see things have moved on.
Hatred has got us where we are.

So I guess I agree forgiving the terroristisin line with the teachings, but just a bit too difficult for me to want to do. So the school were acting consistently with their ethos, hard though it is to swallow.

Forgiveness isn't just a Christian value. It's a good value, generally.

Oh dear.

Way to get people frothing...

The act that this bomber Abedi committed was unquestionably evil...but perhaps he can be considered to be a victim too.

We do hear that the extremists radicalise the most vulnerable young people to activate them to become like this man.