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To ask I if anyone has changed their voting preference?

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bertiesgal · 22/05/2017 14:09

I started off thinking I'd vote SNP but I've definitely settled on Labour.

I'm not pretending that any if the available options are perfect but I feel like every time Theresa May talks about Brexit and "stands up" to Europe (our closest ally and trading partner ffs), it's a bit like cringing as a racist out of touch relative starts spouting off at a party and praying to God they don't say anything too damaging for the sake of the family's reputation.

As for strong and stable....

However, I can't pretend that Labour are much better, I just know that their view of society chimes more closely with mine.

I don't want to start a bun fight, I just want to gauge how dramatic this Tory landslide is going to be or if there's still some hope....

Dons hard hat and awaits flaming!

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Christmastree43 · 28/05/2017 19:01

I am a lifelong labour voter but I cannot vote for Jeremy Corbyn to become PM or Diane Abbott to become Home Sec, the idea of those two running the country puts the fear of God into me 😳 I live in a safe Tory seat but even so will not be voting Labour as I would not want my vote to be interpreted as any sort of support for Corbyn.

I want him gone and an electable party and leader to be allowed to develop in his place. But I fear he and vile Momentum will continue to hold the party to ransom whatever the outcome Sad

I'm considering joining the party to vote him out when the time comes but would equally hate joining to be taken as a gesture of support for him right now.

I could never vote Tory so, as I'm in a safe seat, will be voting Green or Lib Dem as a protest.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 28/05/2017 19:29

I cannot believe TM is not doing debate herself - it's insulting to the electorate.

Could say the same for Corbyn and Sturgeon. Neither of which it would seem, are attending either.

Whatslovegottodo · 28/05/2017 19:41

piglet weeks ago JC offered TM directly the chance to do a live debate, in the style of the last ge campaign, and she declined. Still nothing official about them not doing Paxman tomorrow so I suppose we will wait and see on that.

Not sure if this has been shared yet - it's a song currently residing in the top 10 in the charts and is pretty amusing Wink

m.youtube.com/watch?v=HxN1STgQXW8

christinarossetti · 28/05/2017 19:44

JC has been very clear that he will debate on TV if TM does. And that seems right to me.

She called the election. She's the current PM.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 28/05/2017 19:50

JC has been very clear that he will debate on TV if TM does. And that seems right to me.

Sorry but it makes him as bad as her. Miliband did some in 2015 without Cameron.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 28/05/2017 19:52

Still nothing official about them not doing Paxman

They are both doing Paxman. It isn't tomorrow though

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 28/05/2017 19:54

Sorry it is tomorrow C4.

ExplodedCloud · 28/05/2017 22:37

Sorry for confusion Piglet I'd misinterpreted a 'May drops out of debate' thing to be referring to Monday rather than Wednesday which she wasn't ever going to do Confused

christinarossetti · 28/05/2017 23:14

Yes, and look what happened to Milliband...

She's the one who called the election. She should have the courtesy to debate on live TV with her opposition.

bruffian · 29/05/2017 08:55

I never watch live TV debates anyway, I am snobby about them. Awful.

LabourWillSaveOurKidsFuture · 29/05/2017 08:58

Labour all the way.

Pretty disgusted when people tell me they are voting for the Tories. Especially when they have kids.

bruffian · 29/05/2017 09:07

Really? I could probably find it in myself to be disgusted that anyone would vote for the current labour front bench, but I don't because I understand democracy

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 29/05/2017 09:40

Pretty disgusted when people tell me they are voting for the Tories. Especially when they have kids.

I'm pretty disgusted that some can't accept that others have different views to them whatever they may be.

silkybear · 29/05/2017 10:05

I think it is fair to be disgusted by the scrapping of school meals, rise in food banks and treatment of the disabled. Everyone has a right to vote how they please but you can't expect people to pat you on the back.

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bertiesgal · 29/05/2017 13:07

There is frankly a complete dearth of leadership here and in the US. It's depressing.

I theorise that all of the decent hard working people who could make a difference in politics are too normal for the scrutiny and the power games.

It means that we're left with some very odd neck breaking personalities at the top.

I admire the difference some local mps make but I think the higher up the chain you get, the less human the individual. I also think that the bloody mindedness required means that the people who reach the top are often not the most able but the most stubborn.

It's depressing but our country is deoending on one of them being vaguely decent. It all feels a bit hopeless at the moment!

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LittleLionMansMummy · 29/05/2017 13:16

Lifelong Labour voter but I was considering voting LibDem this time due to their stronger anti-Brexit stance. However, I like Labour's manifesto and believe it's got to be a 'get the Tories out' vote - in my constituency the only party that stands even a remote chance is Labour. So Labour it is. Anecdotally I've heard of quite a few lifelong Conservatives who will not be voting for them this time due to the abolition of school lunches, their assault on pensions and care and their reopening of the fox hunting debate. It's almost as if the Tories are trying to lose the election....

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 29/05/2017 13:19

Everyone has a right to vote how they please but you can't expect people to pat you on the back.

You can say that about any party. Personally I couldn't pat anyone on the back that would vote for the current Labour leadership. I wouldn't however go around telling people that have a different view to me that they 'disgust me'

JustAnotherPoster00 · 29/05/2017 13:25
Radishal · 29/05/2017 14:06

If Yvette Cooper was Labour leader she would have the Tories for breakfast.
Sorry to break the news to everyone but we need politicians to do our politics. TM is trying and isn't very good at it (I hate the Tories, anyway). JC is an activist not a political leader.
Yvette Cooper would have all the flaws we expect from politicians and still do a great job.

MaisyPops · 29/05/2017 15:09

PigletWasPoohsFriend
I'm voting for my Labour MP and for a labour manifesto, not the Labour leadership.

I believe in a centre left progressive set of ideals and it doesn't matter what I think personally of Jeremy Corbyn, I stand by the Labour Party membership and my centre left ideals.

I'm not about to vote any way that makes life easier for May and her cronies. I will never be rude about people who choose to vote tort, but I do find many of the beliefs and principles at the heart of May's government to be sly, dishonest and down right nasty. Her contempt for the British public is disgusting and sadly local candidates/MPS are taking her lead by avoiding fair and open debate with all the other parties.

As a result, I have worse things to say about a local Tory MP than I do about the UKIP candidate. I may disagree with the UKIP candidate buy I respect the fact he is out there with the public campaigning and being honest.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 29/05/2017 15:22

I'm voting for my Labour MP and for a labour manifesto, not the Labour leadership.

That's fine. However our isn't particularly good. Doesnt live in the area. Takes the constituency for granted. They know they are very likely to lose the seat and are waiting for their payout.

I've said before and I can't give my acknowledgement to the current leadership. That isn't going to change I'm afraid and I am far from alone. In fact I'm hearing of more people thinking the same.

MaisyPops · 29/05/2017 15:29

I think it's a shame people can't see past the leadership.

For me it's what kind of society do I want. And I absolutely do not believe the conservatives as a central party actually give a damn about anyone other than themselves.
I had a lovely conservative MP years back and he was fabulous. But he was old school Tory and actually cared. He's still serving but isn't close to getting a cabinet post. Nice guy with different beliefs to me.

Sadly, I think people like him are a minority and the conservatives are only out for the rich. All this big shift to "party of the workers" just shows they are rattled by people having enough of rich people for rich mates politics

Radishal · 29/05/2017 15:34

It's not a shame people don't see past the leadership. The leader will be PM if they have the largest party in the election. The leader chooses the Cabinet from their cadre of elected MPs with the odd peer thrown in.
You are living on fantasy island if you think the quality of these people is not important.
Diane Abbot can't add up . John McDonnell "accidentally " gets photo ops with anti democratic groups. The rest of the PLP can barely be in the same room as him. These are not the people I want in charge.

Perfectplonker · 29/05/2017 16:15

Yvette cooper couldn't even get labour members to back her over Corbyn. They preferred Corbyn (I'll let that sentence settle in a little...)

So what chance do you think she'd have in an election?

I started offf as not a great fan of Corbyn, but I'd vote for him now any day over Yvette.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 29/05/2017 16:23

I think it's a shame people can't see past the leadership.

To be honest it's a shame that people can't see why people can't get past the leadership.

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