To ask I if anyone has changed their voting preference?

[bertiesgal]

I started off thinking I'd vote SNP but I've definitely settled on Labour.

I'm not pretending that any if the available options are perfect but I feel like every time Theresa May talks about Brexit and "stands up" to Europe (our closest ally and trading partner ffs), it's a bit like cringing as a racist out of touch relative starts spouting off at a party and praying to God they don't say anything too damaging for the sake of the family's reputation.

As for strong and stable....

However, I can't pretend that Labour are much better, I just know that their view of society chimes more closely with mine.

I don't want to start a bun fight, I just want to gauge how dramatic this Tory landslide is going to be or if there's still some hope....

Dons hard hat and awaits flaming!

The Labour manifesto contains carefully-calculated costings for their plans. You can look at them, and discuss them. You might or might not agree with them, but you have a basis for discussion.

The Conservative manifest has no costings.

You can take it on blind faith, or not.

Do you know where the imaginary £8bn is coming from?

Yes. The more I think about it, the more simply godsmacked at TM's arrogance at calling a GE.

No sensible manifesto. No sensible policies. No grip of the economy - UK borrowing and the deficit is increasing month on month. No intention of having even one televised debate with opposition leaders.

And someone this short-sighted and narcissistic is asking people to vote for her to continue to run the country?

Why on earth would anyone do that?

Well put, christinarossetti. Agree 100%

I voted SNP last election but will be voting Labour this time. The candidate in my area is brilliant and I feel reassured and safe at the thought of Jeremy Corbyn as PM.
Doesn't make a difference here though as it's a safe SNP seat.

So polls are narrowing but agree with the fact that polls always underplay Tory lead and exaggerate Labour lead.

I think that May was very weak on Andrew Neil and JC did alright. Can't imagine her negotiating on Brexit. Strong and stable is all an act.

People I know are surprising me on social media with their opposition to May which gives me heart.

My hope at the moment is that she doesn't get her landslide. Even that feels like wishful thinking.

Enjoying reading everyone's posts but mn is left leaning (probably why I love it so much) so won't get my hopes up too much!

She was absolutely hammered by the press on Monday re her 'dementia tax' U-turn and completely appalling with Andrew Marr. Much less accurate about anything than Diane Abbott, but much less flack.

Once campaigning is fully under way again, hopefully we'll see more of that!

So, is it better from them [anybody from any party] to not answer the question fully, or to answer with a lie?

What's your point?

Interestingly, my 18 yr old went to a hustings last night.
She said, if she didn't know which party they stood for (ie, pre-conceived ideas), she would, without a shadow of a doubt vote for the Conservative Candidate. She actually answered all the questions that were put to her - her answers made a lot of sense {to dd}, and she didn't spend the night just slagging off TM like the labour party candidate did. She said on all the issues discussed (and I've been to them before and they always ask people to pre-submit questions to ensure thy are on a range of topics - although the candidates don't see them in advance), the Conservative candidate was able to give clear answers each time, and she came away feeling that they made a lot of sense. She was quite shocked, as she was starting from a basis of "I could never vote Conservative".
Nothing to do with swaying votes towards one party or another - I've not made up my mind yet who I am voting for - but I wish so much more of the debate could be around "We will do x,y,z" and less about slagging off the other parties.

Backforgood- not sure if I'm misunderstanding your post, but the Conservative candidate wouldn't slag off TM like Labour did as she's their party leader?

but I wish so much more of the debate could be around "We will do x,y,z" and less about slagging off the other parties.

Your wish would be more credible if you hadn't spent the 2 previous paragraphs saying the labour candidate said this and the conservative candidate said that

If I thought my vote would count then I'd go green. I voted green in the last election because I wasn't very happy about the sway of momentum on Labour and I live in a safe labour seat.

Now things are more precarious, I've signed up as a labour party member and will be voting Labour. A credible left of centre force for good is more important to me right now.

BluBeeDee - sorry, I thought it was implied in what I said..... Apologies for not being clear if it didn't read that way . Obviously I mean slagging off the Leader of any party you don't belong to.

Jupitar, sorry, I'm confused. What do you mean ? In this hustings, there were 4 candidates. I wasn't there. My dd reported that the {currently sitting as our MP} Labour Candidate didn't answer the questions ..... 'What will you do about X,Y,Z?' by saying 'this is what we'll do', he answered by saying 'The Tories have done this, or TM will do that' and avoided answering what they would do it on power. On this occasion, last night, it really impressed my dd that the candidate who is standing as a conservative in our ward, actually answered the questions she was asked and did not spend time on a character assassination of the leader of the opposition. I'm just reporting what happened at one hustings meeting, that made quite a big impression on a first time voter. How can I say that without describing what happened ?

It's pretty obvious what you meant backforgood

Fwiw dds bf and a group of her friends are all voting conservative! I don't know why people assume all young will vote labour. Their reasons are purely to do with Brexit as they believe tm is the best person to secure a good deal - rightly or wrongly that is their view.

Back for good

You could quite easily have said one partys candidate was slagging off the leader of the other party and the other party stuck to answering questions. And then said I wish they would stick to policies not slagging each other off. But you didn't, you slagged off the labour candidate because s/he slagged off TM

I agree that it should be about policies and not personalities, but all parties do it, they're all currently trying to slag off Corbyn for his speech yesterday despite a lot if them saying very similar things in the past. (See Fallons interview on Channel 4 if you don't know what I'm referring to)

I stayed up last night in tears about this. I can't stop thinking about the election and I'm so scared. I know this is massively overreacting but I feel so helpless and worried. Just the tip of the iceberg for me

But I was trying to make the point that my dd is now seriously considering voting for a party that, before the hustings, she would never have dreamt of even considering (which is why I said which party was which), simply because she (the candidate) was prepared to state what they would aim to do, and make it as a statement, rather than just criticising the opposition. I actually really admire Jeremy Corbyn for this actually unlike most of the media it would seem. He believes in what he believes in, states it as that will be his policy and, if you think he is right then you hold vote labour. He doesn't do - as Harriet Harman was still trying to do after they lost the election 2 yrs ago - the 'let me think of a policy that will be popular enough to win me votes'. It is about having principles.

There's plenty of doubt. It's clear the Tories lead in the polls is dropping like a stone.

Not in those released today. 10-12%

I don't understand how anyone could believe that TM will be able to negotiate a good deal on Brexit, given that she falls apart at press conferences, can't answer basic questions put to her by a TV journo and won't publicly debate JC.

What are you basing your assessment of her negotiating abilities on?

Theres no choice this time so an none election. No way will i ever vote for Corbin. Thinking of not voting for first time.

Those figures are from ComRes who overwhelming consult with the corporate sector.

YouGov polls are usually more representative, although the only ones that are reliably accurate are the election day exit polls.

All labour voters please consider lending and hour or so of your time in the next few days to a local marginal constituency
mynearestmarginal.com/
It's really friendly and can be as easy as giving out leaflets.
I have been canvassing today and will be all day tomorrow. Everyone has been friendly with a great atmosphere and we really need everyone to do what they can.

Gosh. Are you planning to never need the NHS, the education system or health and social care then?

All labour voters please consider lending and hour or so of your time in the next few days to a local marginal constituency

I see that you also aren't stating that the link is actually to a momentum site. Bit disingenuous really.