To ask I if anyone has changed their voting preference?

[bertiesgal]

I started off thinking I'd vote SNP but I've definitely settled on Labour.

I'm not pretending that any if the available options are perfect but I feel like every time Theresa May talks about Brexit and "stands up" to Europe (our closest ally and trading partner ffs), it's a bit like cringing as a racist out of touch relative starts spouting off at a party and praying to God they don't say anything too damaging for the sake of the family's reputation.

As for strong and stable....

However, I can't pretend that Labour are much better, I just know that their view of society chimes more closely with mine.

I don't want to start a bun fight, I just want to gauge how dramatic this Tory landslide is going to be or if there's still some hope....

Dons hard hat and awaits flaming!

Petronius just to add to your comment about technology. The Conservative manifesto pledges on internet security are laughable. They are ineffective, impractical and bloated beyond measure. They will drive people further underground.

pennypickle did you actually watch the clip?

I will vote for whichever party has the best chance of unseating the Tories in this constu

Whoops, accidental post: I'll vote for whoever has the best chance of unseating the Tory incumbent. Most likely Lib Dem.

I know that my brother and SIL have changed their votes from Tory to Lib Dem since the last election.

pennypickle did you actually watch the clip?

Yeah about 20 seconds. Why would I need to watch this idiot when trying to decide which political party suits my way of thinking best?

I'll do what I have always done - read each manifesto, watch the live debates, speak to local candidates from all parties.... You know the usual way

penny that Express link. Apparently the cost of the Tory manifesto is noticeable by its absence. And the cost of administrating our post Brexit is high - previously done in Brussels.

Can't bring myself to vote for a party that relies on people like Bo Jo who famously held up a bunch of three bananas, stating, 'we all know the EU won't allow bunches bigger than three'. Oh by the way I never mention the 350 lie 'cos Grayling said it was only an aspiration!

It's curious that tory analysts had time to examine and critique the costings in the Labour manifesto, but not to include any in their own.

If I was so stupid that I needed to have my political views mounded by so called celebs I would give up. And frankie Boyle? Really? He reminds me of the vile Jim Davidson only he was a racist and that's quite rightly censored but apparently the far left don't mind a disablist. Hideous man.

Perhaps Dianne could do the maths.

My MIL and FIL have postal votes and voted Tory. I knew they wouldn't vote Labour because if JC but last time they mentioned it they were adiment they were going Lib Dem.

It's so frustrating because with a better
Credible bench, so all the MPs who wouldnt work with Jeremy. and maybe with Yvette Corbett as leader and with these policies labour could have squeezed in i think.

I am likely to vote LibDem, but have been having a serious wobble due to the twattery legalise cannabis policy, which in my mind has made them look ridiculous.

I am now softening towards Labour a little. I like some of their policies, but really don't trust that they can fund them.

I am a remain voter. I don't really want Brexit although I begrudgingly accept that it is now going to happen. I certainly don't want hard Brexit, and Theresa May's social care manifesto policy is shambolic.

That rules the Conservatives out for me. My choice is between LibDem and Labour. It will probably have to be LibDem, though not enthusiastically.

Petronius are you really telling us that you took any notice of what Bo Jo had to say? Seriously? I find it strange how the majority of brexiters saw his ramblings as pure campaign crap. Yet remainders seem to harp on about the same old.... Does it really matter to you what shape, size, number we have our bananas?

What was Labours campaign re Brexit? Oh that's right they didn't have one. Very little, if any, info came from them.

Diane it seems Diane Abbot has done the maths. Everyone is still waiting to hear how her party are going to deliver what they have promised. Maybe they don't want us to know - because their supporters will sit up and smell the coffee.

In the unlikely event Labour wins this election the best we can hope for is a vote of no confidence in their leader very soon. Then an early re-election once the left wingers realise what they voted for - because they voted on the say so of some scummy 'comedian' 🙄

Quite penny

Still the left wingers Don't care about winning elections. They prefer to spout mantras rather than really provide a good opposition to oppose the tories. It's not new it's happened to labour before hasn't it?

Obviously Blaire, who was the most successful labour leader in recent times and an election winner was a red Tory! That bollocks was posted on this thread to me earlier.

Beggars belief. As the hard left Corbyn fans chatter the old, disabled and poor suffer.

Makes me very very angry

penny I took notice of what Bo Jo said, insofar as having been a Eurosceptic ever since I voted no in 1975, I switched at the last minute to the other side. Most commentators took the view that it was Bo Jo that won it and I didn't want to be part of that, nor do I think it does our country any good to have someone like him as one of our leading politicians. I notice he's been kept out of the way mostly for the election yet still managed to lie by saying the £350M was in the Tory Manifesto.

There are statistics, damn lies and lower still, Bo Jo.

I found it amusing that people harp on about diane abbots maths, luckily she wont be chancellor of the exchequer but the current chancellor of the exchequer makes a £2BN error but lets not mention that, idiots

I have gone from Conservative to Labour, the fox hunting support from May was the final straw for me.

Omg you seriously can't defend Dianne over anything can you? She defended Mao ffs and sent her kid to private school. She's openly racist and had no clue what the basic rate of tax was. The thought of her being Home Secretary is frightening.

And any pro hunt supporters who come on here and claim that they are doing it for 'control' purposes and arrogantly tell others that they don't know what they are talking about, fill your boots.

Every time you do that I give £10 to this charity that I support.

foxproject.org.uk/

I voted Tory 2015, still think they have a few good policies but I'm gonna vote labour at the moment

Dianneabbottsmathsteacher- and the old, disabled and poor won't suffer under the Tories?

What about

• welfare bill
• disabled people being hit by bedroom tax ( used for medical equipment or carers)
• work programme
• cuts to disabled student funding
• scrapping child poverty targets
• disability benefit cuts

-benefit cap

• social care cuts

You keep going on about how great BLair was, not sure why that is relevant, the party has changed for the better IMO

I used to vote Green but now I'm voting Labour

Diane - yes it makes me very angry too. People are swallowing all their do good promises. Nobody knows how the year are going to pay for it. At least TM has been upfront.

As for fox hunting. The Tories have always had a vote on fox hunting. It's nothing new

I was going to vote for the Tories, but having looked at their manefesto, I'm switching back to Labour, who I'd always voted for prior to the last GE. Social care, fox hunting and the massive internet fuckwittery suggestions have been the final nails in the coffin for me.

It won't matter a bean as I'm in a SNP safe seat, but I'd sooner chew off my own arm than vote for the wee "it's oor pound" menace.

I've gone from green to labour.

We need to get the tories out. As someone who works in schools and many of my family work in the NHS in varying roles it is truly despicable the funding cuts we witness every day since the tories took power it's indescribably worse than it was.

I've been to see JC speak and looked at his voting record and spoken to our local candidate about the costings of the manifesto and I have full faith in it and in him as a person. People say he's not up to the job yet he has rallied a great number of supporters for labour.

We can't sit back and let elderly people die due to these awful cuts to NHS and social care, nor let our children learn in classes of 60 as all the schools are having their funding slashed.

That's not to mention the dire situation of policing cuts.

All while she and her husband with his off shore trillionaire business profiting from tax evasions, and the rest of the Tory elite, get richer and richer.