Dh won't let me put a Labour poster up in the window.

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He is a Labour voter. But he doesn't want the neighbours knowing how we vote, as it's none of their business.

I did say I could put a note on it saying 'not DH' but he still said no.

He's a very private person generally to be fair, but usually lets me get my own way and he won't budge on this one.

WIBU to put it up during the day and take it down again before he comes home everyday?

Yes put your poster up. Or put it in your car window, parked outside your house if possible, as alternative. We need every voice out there at this election.

What's so bad about the Lib Dems?

I always thought they were kind of 'neutral'. The political equivilant of sitting on the fence.

They're the group you hear the least about.

The class system CANNOT be reduced to income though. That makes a nonsense of your initial post. MIL was much poorer than my parents. Even if my parents had split up, my dm, born in a slum, earned more than MIL who is firmly UC.

Lib Dems want to legalise prostitution and are very "liberal" on pornography. To me, they're inherently misogynistic.

I believe it can, at least theortically.

We live in a capitalist society segregated on wealth. Poorly paid people doing the same kinds of work, living in the same streets, going to the same schools etc and vice versa for well paid people.

At some point there is a line between where one starts and the other finishes. Practically it would be very difficult to come up with a figure as the actual numbers are subject to wild varience and to create a universal figure would be difficult as it would fail to take into account regional economics such as cost of living etc.

My initial post was never meant to be a definitive answer, it was very very generalistic estimates based on the North of England to give people who are not well educated in sociology and economics a basic understanding of how economic classes are laid out.

Well if it was never meant that way it would have been a jolly good idea to clarify it as such? Assuming OP is not in the NE or well educated. And willing to be patronised.
And willing to understand your obfuscation of economic classes and class.

'Class' was never about anything so gauche as income

Michael Heseltine I believe defined middle class as buying your own furniture

Is he afraid that something bad might happen if you did? Even if that fear is not rational, you might cause him some distress by putting up a poster. And I'm not so sure it is an irrational fear these days. I'm American, so I don't know what your political climate is like, but ours is terrible. I could see someone being vandalized or losing a job over this kind of thing.

Is there someone who votes for another party (I am not very familiar with your political parties) that he's trying to stay on good terms with? I'm a committed Democrat, but my parents and much of their generation of my family are Republican. I wouldn't put up a yard sign or put a bumper sticker on my car because I have no interest in arguing politics with them. I know it wouldn't change their minds and it will just upset me and possibly them. Is this the case with DH?

It was clarified as such. I have said in pretty much every post that class analysis on a macroeconomical scale is inherently very generalistic and fluid and cannot be applied consistenly among individual cases.

I also repeatadly said I was referring to economic class.

Some posters have deliberately ignored that so they could feel entitled to be offended.

geeky no I don't think anyone would suffer as a result of a poster. I live in an area similar to OP and it's not an issue.

It is a tricky one. I would love to put the poster of my party of choice in the window, however, I would like to avoid being the target of abuse (I support Labour, not the BNP). There is a large immigrant population in my area and also a large population of Ukippers and the sort who target people who are more liberal. Whilst I would never dream of targeting their house to suit my political agenda, I wouldn't risk mine.

Unfortunately I agree with your DP, even though I would very much like to agree with you.

Your first definition gave salary brackets and 'defined' class. That's a blunt definition of something far more nuanced. And then 7 pages in you define it as regional. Regional socio economics is not the broad brush you presented it as.

^I can't agree with people when they say "voting is a personal thing" with regards to people not discussing politics. It fucks me off. All the stupid, offensive bullshit people talk about and we're meant to be all offended when people talk about shit that matters? Put your bloody poster up and don't listen to dick heads who act like expressing a political opinion is the most offensive thing a person can do. Let's just all talk about strictly come dancing or whatever bullshit's on the tele and ignore the education, health care and housing crisis.*

Agreed Bugger

I think you are allowed to be passionate about politics and the party that you feel best represented your viewpoint.
So long as you are not being offensive or mocking about viewpoints that others hold.

Is that buying your own furniture outright or on the knock?

I wouldn't put it up in the house window because he's objected and it's half his house.

Plus I hate political posters on display. I don't need to shout my party allegiance. It's a part of who I am and anyone who knows me knows where I stand.

noloveofmine

Yeah I struggle with the prostitution bit as well

Any idea what the other parties think?

Rufus I know the Green Party also want to legalise it as does Jeremy Corbyn although I'm not sure what Labour's position as a party is as I know a fair few of their MPs disagree with Corbyn on it. Not sure what the Tories think.

I personally could never vote for a party which had this policy (though it's irrelevant for the time being as I can't vote in this election)!

Yeah i did hear that about the greens

As a child in the 80s I was fascinated by political posters. That's what made me interested in politics. It's interesting to see how posters vary from area to area in one city.

A few years ago I was horrified to go through what I'd always considered to be a fairly liberal laid back attitude and see window after window of UKIP posters.

I think if the OP's DP doesn't want one up that's fair enough. But I think posters in window are important for lots of reasons.

Diane I dont think he specified but I dont think he was talking about a tallboy on tick from the Co-op somehow

I am with the OPs DH on this one. Voting is a personal matter.

Posters as a form of campaigning seems very last century to me as well.

"Voting is a personal matter."

Well. Some people think it is- some people think it isn't. Why should the dp's wishes take priority?

Roses in your window would do - that's Labour's emblem isn't it?

I'd love a poster of a Union Jack rose (I'm in Scotland), can anyone find that for me.

Because he doesn't want it advertised. The OP can put a sign in her car/on the back of her jacket/anywhere that just affects her.

It's massively disrespectful to her DH if she rides roughshod over his wishes and puts up a poster when he isn't happy to have one up.