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Dh won't let me put a Labour poster up in the window.

178 replies

GreenHairDontCare · 20/05/2017 18:49

He is a Labour voter. But he doesn't want the neighbours knowing how we vote, as it's none of their business.

I did say I could put a note on it saying 'not DH' but he still said no.

He's a very private person generally to be fair, but usually lets me get my own way and he won't budge on this one.

WIBU to put it up during the day and take it down again before he comes home everyday?

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Happyhippy45 · 20/05/2017 21:00

Get a badge and pin it on your jacket/bag.

I put up a poster a few years ago. DH was mortified and wanted me to take it down, only because we run a business and our vans (with company name) are parked outside. Some of customers might be put off if they knew who/which way we were voting.

I wanted to put one up to show solidarity with other people voting the same. It's a bit childish I suppose. "Who's team are you on" kind of thing.

GrumpyDullard · 20/05/2017 21:05

YANBU - as a PP said, it's your home too. If your DH wants to put up his own poster saying "I disagree with posters!" he can.

I don't think political party posters are meant to persuade people to vote for your party; that's hardly likely to happen, after all.

But, if there are loads of posters for one party, supporters of other parties may think their party doesn't stand a chance, and not bother voting. It might also encourage supporters of your party to think "My party has a chance because I've seen some posters" so they'll go to vote when they might not otherwise have bothered.

Other people might think "There are so many Tory posters, the Greens/Lib Dem/Natural Law Party don't stand a chance, but there's support for Labour, because I've seen quite a few Labour posters, so I'll vote for them to keep the Tories out."

As for chavtastic(!!!!) - what about all the landowner twats with their massive fucking "VOTE TORY!" billboards in their bloody fields? Are they chavtastic too? Or is it just when paupers who can't afford their own fields show their political allegiance that you consider it chavvy?

rale124 · 20/05/2017 21:05

You lot - Labour and other middle class centric left wing party supporters.

Us lot - working and lower middle classes.

Bit clearer for you?

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 20/05/2017 21:07

Nope. Cos she:he said Labour hates us lot.

I dont think she did green

I think that she said people wont vote for labour because they think labour hates them and thinks they are stupid

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 20/05/2017 21:08

Cross post

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 20/05/2017 21:09

Whats lower middle class?

Huldra · 20/05/2017 21:16

I'm slightly bemused by words like "Chavtastic" to describe political posters Confused

I'm Lib Dem member and have one with my local candidates name on it. Most of the Labour and Tory ones locally also have their candidates name on. It's surprising how many people don't know who the individuals are running in their constituency, or very much about them.

My husband is very much a floating voter but doesn't mind me having a poster up. In your situation I like the idea of a general VOTE one.

WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 20/05/2017 21:22

I don't know if Labour will win, tbh. I would like them to, but I have low expectations of the general public and even then they fail to live up to them, so it wouldn't surprise me if May wins. Sicken, dismay and distress me, yes, but not surprise me.*

Sorry, just not gonna happen.

Jeremy Corbyn is too poor a candidate. I am not a Tory voter, hate them in fact, but Theresa May is the best prospect we have right now.

phoebemac · 20/05/2017 21:22

For the first time ever I have a Vote Labour board up in my front garden. I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I know the Tories are going to win, but I just wanted to do something.

rale124 · 20/05/2017 21:30

Lower middle class would generally be lower tier mangerial and supervisory jobs (shop managers, production supervisors etc) and poorly paid (in comparison with education level) white collar jobs (teacher, nurse etc).

PortiaCastis · 20/05/2017 21:34

Why do we have to have class it's so ridiculous

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 20/05/2017 21:36

Aaah thank you rale

rale124 · 20/05/2017 21:38

Class isn't an option. Every society in the history of mankind has been divided into their roles in contributing to society and the compensation paid by society for doing so.

Ignoring it does not mean it does not exist.

GreenHairDontCare · 20/05/2017 21:39

I'm so confused.

I'm out of work and on benefits. Dh is a senior manager in a proper grown up job. I read the Guardian but have tattoos and children of differing parentage. We eat kale and quinoa but also get takeaway kebabs on Friday.

It's all so very confusing.

Who am I? WHO AM I?

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Gartenzwerg · 20/05/2017 21:50

YABU to vote Labour.

SeaWitchly · 20/05/2017 21:52

I haven't put a billboard or poster up in my window or front garden but I do carry a bag with 'Vote Labour' on it.

I am quite happy to make my voting intentions known... and think this may be helpful in some small way to those nervous potential Labour voters who can see that others are out and proud so to speak Grin

rale124 · 20/05/2017 22:00

Depends on what aspect of class you are looking at.

Socially you sound pretty middle class reading the Guardian. Tattoos, takeaways and mixed families arent really indicative of social class anymore really.

Economically that would depend on your household income. A senior manager would generally be somewhere within the middle class (lower, central, upper middle) depending on the size of organisation. You would be considered underclass since your not in work.

It can be done on income (adjusted for cost of living) or job role. For North of England id generally say it goes something like this:

Underclass: People out of work due to illness or unemployment or other reason. Under 17k PA.

Working class: People performing unskilled, semi skilled or skilled practical or manual work. Typically jobs include labourers, skilled trades, serviceman/women (not including officers or senior NCOs) etc. 17-25k PA.

Lower middle class: People in lower level managerial or supervisory positions, highly skilled tradesman, white collar graduates in low paying roles such as nurses and teachers. 25-40k PA.

Upper middle class: People in senior managerial or leadership positions with signitcant but not dominant influece over society such as directors of small to medium buisnesses, minor entertainment stars, military officers, highly educated white collar professionals such as researchers, doctors, engineers etc. 40-100k PA.

Upper class: People with dominant influence over society including royalty, senior politicians, directors of major corportations, senior military officers, people with signifcant cultural power such as major entertainment starts etc. In excess of 100k PA.

These figures are very general estimates and class analysis is a very very generalistic study anyway. Money does not always come from jobs, not everyone marries into the same class etc.

PortiaCastis · 20/05/2017 22:02

I don't put people into boxes

rale124 · 20/05/2017 22:10

On an individual scale that's fine but if you want to make political statements based on an analysis of how society operates on a macroscopic scale it is neccessary to group people together.

Ravenblack · 20/05/2017 22:12

Sorry @RALE, but the 'class list' that you put up is utter nonsense and utterly offensive. 'People on benefits due to illness and disability are the underclass?!' Shock

The other classes are nonsense too. Working classes include people in skilled trades, and are on £17K to £25K. I know several people in skilled trades who are on WAY more than £25K.

Where did you get these little anecdotes from?

GreenHairDontCare · 20/05/2017 22:15

I'm even more confused now.

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Bluntness100 · 20/05/2017 22:15

Well you put your suffragette poster up then bluntness, it would be nice to see you taking women's political viewpoints seriously instead of writing them off as the equivalent of a teenage crush hmm

What? how is putting a poster in your window a female political view point,,,😂

I'm a woman. I can and will vote for who I wish.i find putting a poster in your window of who you will vote for crass. Tacky and crass. That's my viewpoint. It's not political. It's simply posters, like that of boy bands, I personally find crass and not appropriate past the teenage years. I don't care if you put posters up of Teresa may, corbyn or whomever, just like putting posters up of pop stars I find it tacky and crass.

Oh and yup. That's a female viewpoint. Would you like to take it seriously or write it off? 🤔

RufusTheRenegadeReindeer · 20/05/2017 22:15

rale

Isnt it a bit of a blunt tool sometimes

Or is even a blunt tool useful at times

So if its just worked out on amount of money you get paid then this could vary quite dramatically over your life

Ravenblack · 20/05/2017 22:16

And just coz someone doesn't have an actual paid job, that doesn't make them underclass. OMG.

WhatToDoAboutThis2017 · 20/05/2017 22:17

Great. Nice to know that for the years I couldn't work due to illness, I was the underclass Hmm

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