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Holiday tension.... WWYD

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Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 04:16

Right, to set the scene: Me, my DH, DD, MIL and SFIL are here together on holiday. It is actually my in-laws house half way up a mountain in a warm corner of Europe. It has a pool and is pretty idyllic all round. However it is very remote, nothing around for about 30 min drive. No public transport. Dodgy mountainside roads that aren't safe to walk or cycle on. The In-laws have kindly paid for our flights and refuse to take any money for us staying here and eating their food (which they insist on cooking, and they are brilliant cooks). We're very very lucky.

However, the holiday does come with some T's and C's. It is very well-to-do, middle class, civilised etc. It is very pleasant but very... erm... 'controlled' I think is the right word. In fact, the theme of the holiday could well be 'Everything in moderation'. This is slightly at odds with my idea of a holiday which is more 'everything to excess' .... but I didn't pay for this holiday so I'm willing to go with the flow. This is our 5th-ish time out here as a couple/family.

As a background point, MIL has always monitored how much I eat. She literally raises her eyebrows if I go for second helpings because I'm overweight. It grinds me slightly, but is just a foible of hers and for the most part I ignore it and do my best to have some self control so as not to disgust her.

But anyway, here is the issue...

On day 3 after dinner, MIL stands up and states how she cannot understand why DH (my DH that is, not her DH) has to drink so much. She then turns to me and says I'm not much better. She is upset because DH's biological father is/was an alcoholic. She cannot stand people drinking to access. I agree that my alcohol tolerance has 'improved' lately and DH rolls his eyes and says 'I'm on holiday mum'. And that's that. Off she goes to bed. I didn't say more because I was totally stunned by the confrontation and I'm rubbish with thinking on the spot. Plus I had 3 gins inside me.

I must admit I was pretty annoyed at the accusation of drinking too much. I certainly wasn't drunk and the gin I was drinking was bought by us at the airport. Plus I'm nearly 40, so im really not accustomed to somebody monitoring my alcohol consumption. I had a good old rant to my friend via text and decided I'd continue the holiday booze-free so as not to cause any more upset.

The thing is, my only experience of family holidays (pre-meeting my DH) is to spend all day in the pool messing about, eating whatever we like and drinking from about 4/5pm. No rules. Just having a laugh. I appreciate not all families are like this, but this is my default setting for a holiday if you will. So it is an adjustment for me to be so controlled on holiday. But I'm trying to remind myself.... it's a free holiday, it's a free holiday, it's a free holiday.... and just be greatful.

Yesterday DH, who seems to have fully regressed into a teenager rebillion mode, gets completely shit faced, singing football (?!) chants whilst mooning and dancing around the pool drunk. Eyebrows are raised. MIL is not impressed. We go out for dinner (against my advice) and whilst he goes to the loo MIL asks me why he decided to get so drunk. I explain I'm not sure why, but I think it's an act of defiance. "How very childish" is the response.... and I have to agree.

The atmosphere now is terrible. MIL and DH basically are at loggerheads. DH is in a terrible mood and is not at all fun to be around. Our DD is always a heartbeat away from a tantrum (she's 2) and how I 'parent' her is constantly being watched and critiqued. I just literally can't relax now, and there are 5 days to go. I plan to keep my head down and stay out of the way as much as I can until we go home. But I'm interested to hear... WWYD?

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rightwhine · 17/05/2017 11:13

Your Mil hasn't actually said anything about your food intake. She's just finding it hard to hide the disproval. Just ignore it and have what you want. What does her opinion matter even if she thinks you are a greedy arse?

When she said about you both drinking too much, together you should have calmly replied. "mum we know that you don't like it because of dad but we haven't had a lot by most peoples standards. We are on holiday and like to have a few drinks. Normally we don't have as much and we won't end up like dad." You just need to allay her fears. Your reaction was to not drink at all which was as unreasonable a reaction as your Dh's. Communication is the key.

NavyandWhite · 17/05/2017 11:13

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yoohooitsme · 17/05/2017 11:14

Yes it is partly the adult child or adult adult thing also muddled in with the part of you have 'bought' with the free holiday - they are the customer and host. Complex when not all on the same wavelength.

Notalotterywinner · 17/05/2017 11:15

when you are out can you buy some inflatables for the pool for your DD? messing around in the pool might really lighten the atmosphere?

Maybe also something for your and DH to do, playing cards?

alltouchedout · 17/05/2017 11:18

"his mother is ignoring the fact that he's an adult." Maybe if he acted like an adult there'd be less confusion?
Swings and roundabouts though isn't it? Maybe if his mother was less controlling then he wouldn't feel the need to act like a fed up teenager?

laureywilliams · 17/05/2017 11:18

I'd have a large glass of wine. Then another. If mil doesn't like it she won't invite you again.

I wouldn't spoil my holiday by letting her dictate what I can eat or drink.

grannytomine · 17/05/2017 11:21

NavyandWhite, the food thing does seem odd. If MIL hasn't actually said anything I wonder if the OP is sensitive about her weight, she has mentioned being overweight, and is seeing disapproval where there isn't any. Sometimes if we are sensitive about something we can read all sorts into people's perfectly innocent reactions.

PeachyPip · 17/05/2017 11:32

Hmm, well you knew the score....

However, it does sound lovely and it's free which is not to be sniffed at.

Can't you just take less notice of her. You and your DH seem to treat her comments very seriously when surely it would be best to ignore her or even joke with her about them. If someone commented on my weight I'd be cheerfully telling them that it's rude and I'm going to eat what I fancy blah blah blah the last thing I would be doing would be eating less.

Hard to know what I'd do without knowing them though.

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 11:38

*' 3 x 25ml measures of gin in tonic'

If that's how much you'd both really had, mil does seem over sensitive. The reality is people rarely give themselves pub measures. Hard to say really, you'll obviously give your biased view. All I would say is you shouldn't both sulk and abstain, just be reasonable, only have a couple of drinks and no mooning or football chants.*

Honestly! I measured it. 50mls split between us.

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girlywhirly · 17/05/2017 11:42

Completely aside from the food and drinking issues, this type of holiday doesn't work for you as a family anymore. You feel watched and disapproved of all the time, you're stuck in a remote location, there isn't anything much to do and you are all cooped up together. Next year your DD will be 3 and pretty much bored with this type of holiday, she will want to do more stuff and go places and maybe the company of other DC to play with.

I'm sorry but the only option is to have your own holiday and pay for it from now on. You aren't really having a holiday at the moment, it's just staying with the inlaws. It doesn't matter how lovely the surroundings are if it makes you miserable. Your DD is already picking up on the moods of the adults. It's a shame for FIL who sounds lovely, but you'll have to think of another way of seeing them rather than staying.

MrsNuckyThompson · 17/05/2017 11:45

Holidays with anyone else requires plenty of booze to oil the wheels IMHO.

Is it an option to try to have a heart to heart with MIL and tell her that while you understand her discomfort there's really nothing to worry about and that you and DH just feel so at home there that you're letting your hair down and having fun as normal life at home is so stressful and of course nothing like being on hols?

Jaxhog · 17/05/2017 11:46

Let me get this straight. You have accepted a free holiday in the sun, where you don't have to pay for anything or cook and meals. And you think it's ok for you and your DH to get rat arsed, even though you know that your MiL is sensitive to drunken slobs?

I think you're being very unreasonable, and rather (very) rude. It isn't a requirement to drink excessively to have a good time you know. If you don't like their rules, then pay for a holiday yourselves, somewhere else. If I was your MiL, I'd have kicked you out of the villa a long time ago.

InvisibleKittenAttack · 17/05/2017 11:46

OP - get your DH to take his Mother out alone for a coffee or something later, he should tell her he understands how hard it must be for her to see him drunk, particularly now he's a father himself, and not picture back to when she and his Dad were at that stage, but he's not his father. He doesn't need to drink, but does like to have a drink and the choices aren't between being a drunk or tee-total, both aren't really healthy relationships with alcohol.

She needs to respect he is a grown up and doesn't have a drink problem. That by constantly monitoring his and your drink consumption, she's making you both feel like you are being treated like you are alcoholics, when you clearly aren't. If you are both going to be monitored and judged all the time, then this will be the last family holiday because you both find it stressful and annoying to be treated like you have a problem when you don't.

grannytomine · 17/05/2017 11:52

What is wrong with being tee-total? Why is that an unhealthy relationship with alcohol? I don't like alcohol so are you saying I have to drink? How ridiculous.

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 11:58

girlywhirly you are absolutely right.

The truth is, the last 2 years here it wasn't all that great either but I didn't drink at all both those times and I was 100% preoccupied by DD who was stuck to me like glue so perhaps I wasn't so aware of the tension between DH and MIL. I didn't notice it at all before DD came along. Thinking about it... this is our 6th visit here.

DH is very very sensitive actually. (That's a whole other story.) I've told him this kind of holiday isn't right for us anymore. And that, from now on, we arrange our own holidays on our terms.

Yes I probably am over reacting to the raised eyebrows at dinner time. But I think it helps set the scene, she is quite critical in general and there are lots of do's and don'ts that I've just got used to. Silly things we laugh at in private but just accept as it's not too bad and her good points far outweigh her bad.

And I do understand her concern is out of love. I'm just not used to be told off or being told what to do! I don't know how to react!!

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MrsNuckyThompson · 17/05/2017 11:58

I honestly can't believe that people think it's ok for a host to dictate to guests what or how much they eat or drink. I think THAT's the height of rudeness.

Your OH has of course been a bit of a nob but I expect he's sick of 40+ years of being dictated to like this!

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 11:59

Um.... I had 3 gins. I didn't get rat arsed! I've not drank since.

I fear I have misrepresented myself somewhat.

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user1491572121 · 17/05/2017 11:59

Nucky Whilst I can't believe more people aren't commenting on the whole "getting pissed" while in charge of a toddler!

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/05/2017 12:02

Belly you haven't misrepresented yourself at all, some posters Hmmare jumping in and clearly enjoy having a pop when you've sounded entirely reasonable.

Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 12:07

Blimey... I had 3 gins after she went to bed on day 3. I've not had anything since. I genuinely do not have a drink problem.

This holiday could literally not be more civilised and controlled. Even DD's playdoh is being strictly monitored to ensure the colours don't mix together.

(Besides DH's outburst yesterday which was weirdly out of character, disrespectful and childish)

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Dozer · 17/05/2017 12:07

The arrival of DC1 made me notice a LOT of issues in my family dynamics that had been driving DH crazy! Eg the parent/child rather than adult to adult thing.

The issues had always been there, and had negatively affected a previous serious relationship, but I hadn't seen it.

diddl · 17/05/2017 12:09

I'm glad that he's apologised to his mum.

It was a daft reaction of his if she was showing genuine concern, he could just have reassured her.

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 17/05/2017 12:11

Even DD's playdoh is being strictly monitored to ensure the colours don't mix together

Seriously?, tell Grandma to stop being so uptight.

Can you take off in the car, just the three of you?

littlefurrysheep · 17/05/2017 12:12

as someone who has experienced far to much as a result of the alcoholism of a partner i am with your MIL. i would be devastated to see my son behaving like this having presumably bore the brunt with his father Sad

diddl · 17/05/2017 12:13

"Even DD's playdoh is being strictly monitored to ensure the colours don't mix together"

Grin

It is annoying when it all turns brown though!

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