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Holiday tension.... WWYD

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Bellyrub1980 · 17/05/2017 04:16

Right, to set the scene: Me, my DH, DD, MIL and SFIL are here together on holiday. It is actually my in-laws house half way up a mountain in a warm corner of Europe. It has a pool and is pretty idyllic all round. However it is very remote, nothing around for about 30 min drive. No public transport. Dodgy mountainside roads that aren't safe to walk or cycle on. The In-laws have kindly paid for our flights and refuse to take any money for us staying here and eating their food (which they insist on cooking, and they are brilliant cooks). We're very very lucky.

However, the holiday does come with some T's and C's. It is very well-to-do, middle class, civilised etc. It is very pleasant but very... erm... 'controlled' I think is the right word. In fact, the theme of the holiday could well be 'Everything in moderation'. This is slightly at odds with my idea of a holiday which is more 'everything to excess' .... but I didn't pay for this holiday so I'm willing to go with the flow. This is our 5th-ish time out here as a couple/family.

As a background point, MIL has always monitored how much I eat. She literally raises her eyebrows if I go for second helpings because I'm overweight. It grinds me slightly, but is just a foible of hers and for the most part I ignore it and do my best to have some self control so as not to disgust her.

But anyway, here is the issue...

On day 3 after dinner, MIL stands up and states how she cannot understand why DH (my DH that is, not her DH) has to drink so much. She then turns to me and says I'm not much better. She is upset because DH's biological father is/was an alcoholic. She cannot stand people drinking to access. I agree that my alcohol tolerance has 'improved' lately and DH rolls his eyes and says 'I'm on holiday mum'. And that's that. Off she goes to bed. I didn't say more because I was totally stunned by the confrontation and I'm rubbish with thinking on the spot. Plus I had 3 gins inside me.

I must admit I was pretty annoyed at the accusation of drinking too much. I certainly wasn't drunk and the gin I was drinking was bought by us at the airport. Plus I'm nearly 40, so im really not accustomed to somebody monitoring my alcohol consumption. I had a good old rant to my friend via text and decided I'd continue the holiday booze-free so as not to cause any more upset.

The thing is, my only experience of family holidays (pre-meeting my DH) is to spend all day in the pool messing about, eating whatever we like and drinking from about 4/5pm. No rules. Just having a laugh. I appreciate not all families are like this, but this is my default setting for a holiday if you will. So it is an adjustment for me to be so controlled on holiday. But I'm trying to remind myself.... it's a free holiday, it's a free holiday, it's a free holiday.... and just be greatful.

Yesterday DH, who seems to have fully regressed into a teenager rebillion mode, gets completely shit faced, singing football (?!) chants whilst mooning and dancing around the pool drunk. Eyebrows are raised. MIL is not impressed. We go out for dinner (against my advice) and whilst he goes to the loo MIL asks me why he decided to get so drunk. I explain I'm not sure why, but I think it's an act of defiance. "How very childish" is the response.... and I have to agree.

The atmosphere now is terrible. MIL and DH basically are at loggerheads. DH is in a terrible mood and is not at all fun to be around. Our DD is always a heartbeat away from a tantrum (she's 2) and how I 'parent' her is constantly being watched and critiqued. I just literally can't relax now, and there are 5 days to go. I plan to keep my head down and stay out of the way as much as I can until we go home. But I'm interested to hear... WWYD?

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kaitlinktm · 18/05/2017 22:11

To kaitlinktm OP was boasting she starts drinking at 4pm
No she wasn't - she said she used to do this in her youth BEFORE she had children (while she was a teenager I think).

Gin after DD in bed is fine but 3 every day is a lot
She didn't say she had three every day - she was talking about ONE occasion at the beginning of her holiday.

This is obviously something which affects you very much - but that doesn't mean that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a raging alcoholic - including the OP who seems to have been frightened off her own thread now. As I said, I am virtually teatotal myself but try not to be evangelical about it.

Well stop having a go with irrelevant insults because I am smarter, more articulate
Grin Grin Grin

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expatinscotland · 18/05/2017 22:11

C'mon, Belly, you know you neck a bottle of gin every night! Grin

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Bellyrub1980 · 18/05/2017 22:19

Shit... Expat... did I somehow out myself??

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MsJudgemental · 18/05/2017 22:20

We are NC with my mother over similar, controlling behaviour (although not particularly about alcohol) which escalated after she moved to the family holiday home permanently. Go elsewhere next time.

Cool1Cat What are you on? It may not be alcohol but it's definitely an unwarranted high horse.

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Bellyrub1980 · 18/05/2017 22:21

Kait... still here just with a crappy internet signal! Seriously, if all my threads were thiswell responded to, I'd have to invest in a laptop!!

(Thank you for actually reading my posts and being a voice of reason!)

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kaitlinktm · 18/05/2017 22:24

Haha Belly - x posts.

Has your MIL commented on the fact that you aren't drinking at all and she is? I am a bit confused about what she must be thinking?

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Bellyrub1980 · 18/05/2017 22:34

She's hasn't commented at all. But the last 3 holidays here I barely drank at all (preg/breast feeding), so maybe she thinks I've reverted back to that version of myself and with her rant she helped divert me from the mothers ruin in the nick of time -and saving the rest for her-

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WhereYouLeftIt · 18/05/2017 22:52

"Im too worried about upsetting MIL I know she's massively controlling but she's also quite sensitive, and I think her concern around alcohol is reasonable. "
But, but, but, but Shock how on earth can you believe she has a genuine concern around alcohol WHEN SHE'S SITTING THERE DRINKING ALCOHOL. Actions speak louder than words.

And what a surprise - controlling AND sensitive!

WAKE UP, OP!

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girlywhirly · 19/05/2017 08:33

I think the MIL can be very nice to people who toe her line and very judgemental about those who don't. She easily takes offence which may appear to be sensitivity, but it's a very effective way of making people do what she wants. I wonder if she bursts into tears or does the deeply hurt "you don't care how I feel" if anyone disagrees with her views, and this come across as being sensitive.

I believe that DH's behaviour was him snapping after MIL's constant criticism, the last straw. I think she would benefit from more counselling or a support group, although I suspect she would dismiss both as unnecessary. But the truth is, she is driving away the very person (DS) who could support her and she him, and by the same token her DIL and DGD. They can't wait to go home, and don't want to holiday with her again.

I'm guessing there are no garden toys for a toddler, a swing or rocking toy, that sort of thing? Not very toddler friendly? But it adds weight to your case of not holidaying there again because DD will need more activities and other DC to play with.

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Izzy24 · 19/05/2017 09:36

OP, I think you've behaved impeccably and you sound like the ideal guest. I think your MIL is very lucky to have a DIL like you.

Your husband's mooning rebellion made me laugh and I'm sure you will both laugh about it when you're home!

You also sound like a great mum who is giving her daughter a lovely time whatever is going on between the adults.

I think the only question is how much of your annual leave are you and DH wanting to allocate to visiting the inlaws in future?

And how much do you want to allocate to a holiday?

Hope you enjoy the time left as much as you can 😎

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CruCru · 19/05/2017 09:43

Re games to play outside, is she too little for What's the Time, Mr Wolf?

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RoseandVioletCreams · 19/05/2017 09:47

Great post girly

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EvilDoctorBallerinaDuck · 19/05/2017 10:08

MsGame I think it's how the MIL talked to her DS that's the problem. If you tell DS 5 not to do something in a "mum tone", he does it again. It sounds like the DH has the same kind of personality. Doesn't she know her own DS's personality yet? Confused

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EvilDoctorBallerinaDuck · 19/05/2017 10:26

InvisibleKitten I think having a controlling DM brings out the childish twat in one.

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gotthemoononastick · 19/05/2017 11:35

Walk in the shoes of someone who has lived with alcoholism to undestand this woman's fear for her son.

She would know all the signs and the genetic links and be hyper vigilant.

Your husband is grossly insensitive to her feelings.Do not holiday there again...rather meet up somewhere neutral for a break, where your lifestyle is not visible to her.

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TotallyConkers · 19/05/2017 11:55

OP I would get DH and DMIL in a room and just say these holidays together aren't working and whilst you love each other's company you all want different things in terms of relaxing during a holiday.

I know you say you don't want confrontation but really it would be for the best and it doesn't seem that either DMIL or DH can do the grown up thing here and admit that.

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RoseandVioletCreams · 19/05/2017 11:55

I think having a controlling DM brings out the childish twat in one

Absolutely, I do know this from experience ( not my own but someone close) and yes, it makes you want to go wild and break free.

gotmoon its not fair for her to visit those fears onto her son. Its not fair to saddle him with possibly un founded fears he is alochlocic. You have to be very careful when dealing with people - you can sort of make them think they are genetically programmed to go a certain route..and take out their choice in the matter.

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S4RA · 19/05/2017 17:24

I would take DD and go home now!!
Leave the idiot with the control freaks and let them sort it out themselves it's not your fight.

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NavyandWhite · 19/05/2017 17:51

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EvilDoctorBallerinaDuck · 19/05/2017 18:12

Me too Huldra

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MsJudgemental · 19/05/2017 23:10

The controlling behaviour and then bursting into tears when challenged is exactly the sort of narcissistic behaviour that led to my family and my sister and her husband going NC with our mother. this is nothing to do with alcohol. She will not change. Get through the rest of this holiday the best you can and make it the last. It will not get better, believe me. Flowers

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Ceto · 20/05/2017 08:12

I haven't seen anything about OP's MiL bursting into tears?

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PigletWasPoohsFriend · 20/05/2017 08:29

I haven't seen anything about OP's MiL bursting into tears?

No nor me.

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grannytomine · 20/05/2017 08:51

Well don't let the facts stop a good MIL bashing.

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girlywhirly · 20/05/2017 14:18

I questioned whether MIL might burst into tears in my post on Fri 19th at 8.33, if anyone disagreed with her. It can be a controlling behaviour. The OP hasn't said that she does.

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