Seriously, is there ^anyone^ on MN who does not want Labour to win on June 8?

[cathf]

Come out, come out wherever you are!
I know it will mean you will be attacked and preached at, you will be told you are rich, uncaring and hate everyone except yourself, but will anyone stand with me and admit to planning on voting Conservative on June 8?
I can't be the only one surely? I didn't vote the Conservatives in by myself in 2015!

Yes, KitKat totally agree - I work in social care and it's heartbreaking. I cannot understand why people are so happy to stand by and see the public sector decimated.

JaneEyre are you joking??

Theresa May? Compassionate? I think I've heard it all now.

It'd be a cold day in hell before I voted for Theresa May. Equally, Jeremy Corbyn is ridiculous plus my local Lab MP is a twunt. LibDems for me. We won't win, but I will have done the right thing.

Theresa May is a xenophobic psycopath
Jerermy Corbyn is a mysoginistic luddite
Tim Farron is a god bothering non entity

luckily my local MP is great even though his party leader is a shit

janeeyre can you explain what makes you say TM is compassionate please?

I really haven't seen/heard anything that has given me that impression.

Jane Maybe because women dont see things like the tax credits rape clause as helping women.

Two threads on here the "left wingers are nasty" thread and the champagne socialists one were specifically started to slag off left wing voters. And yet i havent seen an equivilant one started in the run up to this election to slag off Tory voters.

@cathf I dont object to ppl having a different opinion to me. What i do object to is being told that left wingers are nasty and then being gaslighted about it when it is proved wrong.

DJ, not all Tory voters are wealthy. I don't vote for the party that will throw the most money at me, I vote for who I think can make a better country for future generations.

The Tories push a work ethic and self reliance which is what we have needed for some time. The effects of tax credits will take some overcoming, they led to a generation of laziness and wants.

Theresa May compassionate? To whom?!? Because there's a lot of desperately struggling disabled people, A&E departments with corridors filled with people who can't get a bed, and frail, vulnerable people who have had their social care support cut (to name but a few examples) who might disagree with you on that.

What is the point in banging on about how harsh the Tories have been? MAY is a new leader and a different leader, and what's more, she is only putting right the hideous accounts that LABOUR left. They left a note saying there's no more money is 2010, and Conservative had to put it right.

The cuts HAD to be made. Cruel or not. Do you suggest we just kept borrowing money??? And do you suggest everyone on disability should be allowed to stay on it for life? Some people on it shouldn't be on it, don't try and say there aren't some people swinging the lead.

Everything the Tories have done has come from a sensible and logical place, but it was all a bit harsh. Bedroom tax; yes a good idea, although too harsh. They should perhaps have allowed everyone one extra bedroom, and offered alternative social housing to those with more, not thrown them on the streets. (And also, pensioners should not have been exempt, seeing as how they take up much of the larger housing stock.)

Benefit cap; 100% agree with that, but it should not have been retrospective. Tax credits, same as benefit cap; yes, capped at 2 children, but not retrospective. SOMEthing had to happen: people getting 3 hundred quid a month extra for each additional child had to stop.

And yes people on disability should be tested every few years, but by health professionals and doctors who do NOT get money for every person they boot off. Sorry, but I know at least four or five people who are on disability and they could definitely work. I bet everyone knows SOMEone who is swinging the lead on disability.

MAY is the right leader, and voting for Corbyn is a bad idea. As for the LibDem bloke; can't stand him, horribly homophobic, and sanctimonious.

Caring for your children often means telling them they cannot do as they want. It's called responsibility, and it goes hand in hand with not promising too much. All very well for JC to advertise heaven on earth for all, but there will always be people left standing who get left behind and isolated. It's for fair-minded people to decide that it won't be the disabled and sick who suffer the consequences they cannot duck. Pay your taxes cheerfully and chose a government that won't waste money. You decide who that is.

Yes, do tell JaneEyre. I'm looking forward to it.

Me! I'm not voting Labour. Never in a million years.

From 15 December 1992. Way before tax credits. About the abolition of the Wages Councils.

www.heraldscotland.com/news/12577696.Abolition_of_wages_councils_and_threat_to_the_lower_paid/

Sorry, but I know at least four or five people who are on disability and they could definitely work. I bet everyone knows SOMEone who is swinging the lead on disability

Or think you know.

I couldnt work for a while way back. I had people say this about me.

But i genuinely couldnt, am extremely hard working and like working.

I think I'll be voting Lib Dem, on the basis that while they won't win, I think they'd make a better opposition party than Labour currently is.

I'm spending a lot of time agonising over the fact that I violently disagree with some aspect of every main party, before I remember that I live in a very safe Tory seat and it won't bloody matter anyway.

Conservative for me to OP.

Part of the the oppressed majority!

I don't know what party I "naturally" fall into, have voted lib dem/green in the past but I am pro-brexit, however I definitely don't appreciate TM's approach, nor her record, I'm not a Corbyn fan either..... but for me it's an anyone-but-the-Tories vote at this point, and my local Labour incumbent is a capable woman whose voting record I mainly appreciate, Tories weren't far behind last election, so Labour it is. I can't risk voting any other way and allowing the seat to fall Tory. Never voted tactically before but there doesn't seem to be any other way

People with permanant disabilities do not need testing and retesting. My DHs emphysema and ischemic heart disease isnt just going to disappear.

Now the over 65s are being tested we are going to see elderly ppl in their 70s keep getting dragged in for reassesment Is this really the country people want?

Nah Monkey ^ You, and everyone else on here, knows the type I mean. And it's not people with 'hidden disabilities' that I am on about. It's the ones who shouldn't BE on disability. Please don't pretend you don't know someone like this.

There are plenty of genuine cases, and the lead-swingers make it bad for them. It's them who cause the genuine ones to have to tolerate assessments.

I would hate labour to win
I would hate Torys to win
Lib dems are a non entity in my constituency
I don't know who the fuck to vote for

I think Tory bashing labour supporters are massive hypocrytical sheep
I think Tory supporters are NIMBYs

We are a large family owned farm, my DH is a farmer and I'm a surveyor working in the rural industry. The Tories cater for our needs and are the only party who ever put forwards a robust agricultural policy. Our industry is in for a shitstorm in the next few years and I can't see anyone other than the Tories bringing us through it.
I'm with you frilly

The cuts had to be made - how do you know? Are you an economist? Can you justify your claim?

Cuts to PIP?

Anyone remember the credit crunch/banking crisis? What has happened to the people who caused it?

There are things we can't afford not to spend money on.

On the other hand my DF (deceased) said that farmers do better under labour. The weak pound was better for exports.

derxa frilly I heard an ecologist claim that if we don't change our farming practices there will only be 60 more harvests left because of the loss of topsoil.