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UK economy slows to 0.3% and inflation is at highest level for 3 years - brexiters are you still happy?

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brexitstolemyfuture · 28/04/2017 10:34

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/39743129

Or regret your choice? Brexit the gift that keeps on giving :(

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JustAKitten · 28/04/2017 11:08

Was the poster of refugees springs to mind for me

Laiste · 28/04/2017 11:09

you're saying "racism isn't as much as an issue as these others. Racism is okay as long as x happens"

No. You're conflating two different things there. Racism isn't as much an issue is different to racism is ok.

There were only two choices: in or out. Racism being less of an issue to you than something else doesn't make you racist. The vote wasn't 'do you hate foreigners or not'. There were actually other issues at stake.

wasonthelist · 28/04/2017 11:11

Was that's a fair point, but the referendum will have more of an impact than a general election because it can't be changed every 5 years

All the more reason for me to have given it a lot of consideration as I did prior to voting.

Those of us who voted on each side did so alongside people we had little in common with.

CopperRose · 28/04/2017 11:12

Yep, still happy. 😊

Of course they're happy - as long as anyone who's not English feels unwelcome they've succeeded.

^ 🙄 would be happier if people stopped making great sweeping, inaccurate, bigoted assertions about others though.

Bigotry is a nasty look for anyone, including self-styled 'tolerant' types.

FlaviaAnsell · 28/04/2017 11:17

What bothers me about leave voters is while they're not all racist, they've sided with those who are

What bothers me about remain voters is while (I presume) they don't all think leave voters are too stupid to vote, or too old to vote, they've sided with those who do. They don't all shout 'bigot, xenophobe, Little Englander' rather than debate the issues, but they've sided with those who do.

Every attempt by Leavers on Mumsnet to discuss the result immediately after the referendum last year was shouted down and derailed by Remainers. If Remainers think all Leavers share the responsibility for the actions of a few, then all Remainers equally share responsibility for that.

Blimey01 · 28/04/2017 11:21

The media has a role to play in the perception of those that voted to leave. Focusing in on minority racist knobs makes good news and feeds into the divide.
Most of the people I know voted to remain and some of the reasons were short sighted and selfish just as some of the leavers reasons were. One to make sure they could keep their caravan in Spain Hmm, another because it would be more complicated going on holiday in Europe. The dh in this couple is incredibly racist and a remainer. I refuse to have anything to do with him.
No one knows how brexit will effect the country just like no one knows how it would have worked out if we had chosen to stay.

FreeNiki · 28/04/2017 11:23

The UK is the most outvoted country in the EU Council.

We have fuck all say in it. Why do you want to stay.

We never wanted to be a part of the EU anyway. We kept our border and currency.

Im so sick of people blaming everything on Brexit when we havent left yet.

wasonthelist · 28/04/2017 11:24

Actually that's a great point. If we had voted remain and seen an upswing in racist attacks, would that have been the fault of the remainers?

GretchenFranklin · 28/04/2017 11:24

most people voted Leave because they wanted to reduce immigration and thought that £350 m was going to the NHS.

When it turns out those things aren't feasible - which remainers worked out before the vote - they all pretend that wasn't the reason behind their vote at all and it's fine that the economy is turning to soup.

It would be hilarious if it wasn't so bloody awful.

SleepFreeZone · 28/04/2017 11:27

I'm not happy no. We were fucked regardless.

FreeNiki · 28/04/2017 11:28

most people voted Leave because they wanted to reduce immigration and thought that £350 m was going to the NHS.

No they didnt.

Im sick of being part of a totally undemocratic and bureaucratic organisation that by its own admission on of them said I do take my mandate from the European people.

The UK is the most outvoted country in the EU Council, we have fuck all say in what happens.

We never joined the schengen area or adopted the euro so we never really wanted all in , in the first place.

wasonthelist · 28/04/2017 11:29

most people voted Leave because they wanted to reduce immigration and thought that £350 m was going to the NHS

What a ridiculous assertion - please tell us more about the extensive research you did that led to this conclusion.

SleepFreeZone · 28/04/2017 11:29

I assume you realise the world economy is going down the pan and not just ours? The world is overpopulated and our standard of living reduces and will continue to worsen until something seismic happens that kills an awful lot of us.

GretchenFranklin · 28/04/2017 11:33

they did, they really did! Why is it ridiculous may I ask? The Leave campaign relied heavily on voters buying into that bullshit.

And they errr, did.

FreeNiki · 28/04/2017 11:35

they did, they really did! Why is it ridiculous may I ask? The Leave campaign relied heavily on voters buying into that bullshit.

So you know the mind of every leave
voter?

Ive been against the EU since its inception.
I dont think we ever should have joined.

People like you make remainers look so ignorant.

FlaviaAnsell · 28/04/2017 11:36

most people voted Leave because they wanted to reduce immigration and thought that £350 m was going to the NHS.

And you are still not listening to Leavers who have over and over again explained why they voted leave. Some people may have voted leave for those reasons, but they weren't part of the thinking of any Leave voters I know.

PlymouthMaid1 · 28/04/2017 11:39

No regrets here. Just want them to get on with it.

wasonthelist · 28/04/2017 11:42

They did, they really did!
How do you know?

Why is it ridiculous may I ask
Because just saying something doesn't make it true

SapphireStrange · 28/04/2017 11:43

The economy will be fine. We'll just make up the money by selling haggis to the USA and sending whisky to India at higher duty. According to Boris Johnson, who is still standing by the 'money to the NHS' line and whose Garden Bridge farrago seems to have finally crashed and burned.

KellysZeros · 28/04/2017 11:44

The way I see it (as a remainder) is we know short term Brexit is going to be bad for the UK. That's not really in doubt. The longer term (10 year or longer), no one knows, even the greatest economic minds.

Leavers have taken a punt that it will be worth the short to medium term pain.

I also think that most people voted on feeling and identity. I'm educated, cultured, I like wine and have foreign friends. Most people like me voted to remain, and I'll vote remain. No one here is really rational about Brexit

JaneEyre70 · 28/04/2017 11:55

Oh shit, you mean the NHS isn't going to get the money after all.....

Because everyone who voted leave is that thick Angry.

I'm still waiting to hear one good reason for remaining personally.

SapphireStrange · 28/04/2017 11:56

Jane, I'm not saying everyone who voted leave is that thick.
But Boris Johnson seems to be.

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brexitstolemyfuture · 28/04/2017 11:56

I still can't get my head around Boris having a job in the cabinet!

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KellysZeros · 28/04/2017 11:57

Sapphire, you really can't think of a single reason to remain in the EU? Wow!

wasonthelist · 28/04/2017 11:58

I'm educated, cultured, I like wine and have foreign friends. Most people like me voted to remain,
Hilarious. Remind me again how us Leave voters are the ones who base all our decisions on vague ideas not facts? :)