To think that some left-wing supporters are just so NASTY

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This is based on posts I have read on here and a couple of very vocal left-wing friends I have on facebook.
I have truly never read a Conservative supporter personally attacking Labour in the same way.
I find it astonishing and if I am honest, a bit childish.
Recent examples include a website pulling Teresa May's living room apart and costing out every single thing in it, to a chorus of comments along the lines of how can she sleep at night when children are hungry and she has a £25 candle.
Every time the subject is raised on here, there is a long thread of hysterical comments about how nasty the Tories are. Yes, Tory supporters state their case and answer back, but they seem to be able to do it in a more restrained, mature manner than outraged Labour screamers.
There seems to be a lot of personal bile aimed at Teresa May, which I am at a loss to understand - just what has she done that is so terrible?
She is pushing through Brexit, but that was what the country voted for. Is she supposed to go against the country's wishes?
All of Labour's policies look very lovely, but none have any substance at all. My friend recently stated on Facebook she was supporting Jeremy Corbyn because he wanted peace not war. And? How is he going to implement that then? It reminds me of the 1980s T-shirts stating War is Stupid. Lots of nice words, but to implementation strategies.
It amazes me that supposedly intelligent people seem to be so brainwashed by this nonsense and think that flinging mud is an appopriate way to behave.
Is it just me?

Thatcher made my family. Her social mobility policies helped my father move from a mining town in poverty to the beautiful Surrey town I grew up with where he could educate us privately. Thatcher was strong and brilliant and I bloody love her.

The thing is with Shy Tories is that they struggle to defend Tory policies. Where is the unelected Tory that actually defends cutting disability benefit. There were even Tory MPs that thought that might not be a terribly good thing.

Or asking women if their third child was due to nonconsenual conception? Tories, the word is rape.

Thatcher made my family. Her social mobility policies helped my father move from a mining town in poverty to the beautiful Surrey town I grew up with where he could educate us privately. Thatcher was strong and brilliant and I bloody love her

#imalrightjack

Threads like this never change anyone's minds about their voting intentions, nor will it show anyone that what they have already decided is not true.

There is as much Labour/Left wing bashing goes on, as there is right wing.

"Thatcher made my family. Her social mobility policies helped my father move from a mining town in poverty to the beautiful Surrey town I grew up with where he could educate us privately. Thatcher was strong and brilliant and I bloody love her"

Survivor bias, it worked for you, but it didn't work for millions of others, and no it wasn't down to hard work and good choices that's self attribution fallacy.

"childish"
"hysterical"
"brainwashed"

Just making a note of language the OP used in a "restrained, mature manner" to state her case.

Let me test it out. Tory voters are childish, hysterical and brainwashed. Feels a bit weird to be so mature and restrained and above all not nasty about them. Thanks for educating me, OP!

YANBU

There is a very left wing supporter calling Tory voters over privileged cunts on another thread.

Truly vile.

Was the after the 15% he moved to leafy Surrey. My Grandfather owned a hotel so he did well obviously. I naturally think of others who suffered back then as a result of her policies. My dad never lost his house but it was hard times back then.

You're not talking about votes cast for a hard right fascist party but for one of the three main parties in the country

The two aren't mutually exclusive

People get angry because they genuinely believe that innocent people will suffer under a Tory government and it's frustrating when conservative voters don't seem to acknowledge this.

I'm a student nurse and I've been placed in a hospital for two and a half years. In this short time I have seen people die because of staff shortages and it's absolutely heart breaking. Nurses are responsible for feeding, washing, dressing, tolieting and medicating up to 15 people. Sometimes all of these people need help with all of these areas and it's absolutely impossible. I'm actually dreading qualifying in a way, even though I love the job.

So many nurses and doctors are leaving (a junior doctor has just started at my husband's job because the pay and conditions are so crap) so it's just going to get worse.

When I look at my conservative mp' s voting record he has voted against gay rights, against children's rights, against immigrants rights and against women's rights. The only thing he's voted for really is less transparency in government and more rights for businesses.

By all means if you're a white, male, rich business owner who privately educates your children and has private health insurance then vote conservative knowing that they have you best interest at heart. If not than at least look at your mp's voting record, challenge them when you don't agree with what they've voted for.

I wouldn't name call or dislike anyone because of who they voted for but I do find it exasperating when people who I know would be better off under a different government or a more accountable conservative government vote for them because of deluded aspirations or a hatred of people they deem are getting something for nothing. It just seems so petty and spiteful to me.

Her social mobility policies helped my father move from a mining town in poverty

Shame about all the people in mining communities who were left unemployed and trapped in poverty. And a shame about the profitable pits that were closed so we could import cheap coal from countries with poor health and safety standards.

But hey, you came out of it OK so everything is just fine.

I have known of down nasty Tory voters

And I know a few left wingers who think they are morally superior and witter on about socialism but hate leave voters and hope the poor leave voters suffer more

I know just as many good people who vote for Labour, Tory and LD some even switch sides

To think that some people are just nasty.

Fixed it for you. What recent politics have taught me is the loud, in your face screamers tend to be nasty and not representative of the general population. Not all Leftists are commies, blinded by the light of Corbyn. Not all Tories (or right-wing supporters) are bigoted, racist, selfish twats.
Unfortunately there seems to be a deepening divide of 'us' and 'them' where everyone is lumped with the extreme ends of both sides and mob mentality is being encouraged.

The mining towns weren't actually a poverty stricken blight on the national consciousness before Thatcher. The men had reasonably well paid jobs (albeit dangerous). There were communities. There was nothing but coal and the supporting infrastructure/services.
This was the case in our Welsh Valley.

Lovely. Another goady thread. I guess we have another six weeks of this.

That's the odd thing about Thatcher times

The rise in weatlth and lifestyle for many working class and the encouragement of social climbing (after all she was a great example of this) and for other working class they were trashed

there were huge social changes during her time as PM it changed politics and our country for ever

Thatcher destroyed my uncle and grandfather's careers. My grandfather had been a miner all his life and wasn't able to transition to anything else at his stage in life. My uncle fell into poverty and turned to crime as the only option where he lived. She was not the hero in our part of the world. I admired her as a girl because I saw a female prime minister and wasn't aware that she was the reason I stood on a picket line with my grandparents. It took until my teens before I was enlightened.

The main legacy of Thatcher was not social mobility, but entrenched privilige, all you have to do is to look at the social mobility before she came to power, and what it changed to be afterwards.

Thatcher decimated the area I grew up in.

You must be joking. There is a very vocal group of right wing Brexit men on social media who are extremely nasty. I don't disagree that the left can be nasty too but it's not only them.

I don't think a left winger has ever burned money in front of a homeless person..............

I've been known to insult a Tory or two but it's usually after they've said something ignorant, racist and shown no regard for other people.

And I've had very personal attacks from right wingers.

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Thatcher made my family.

And that sums up where the vitriol and the hatred cone from. I am alright so I care not one jot for anyone else. Those left behind, well that's their fault, they deserve it. I am wealthy because I am clever with rich parents. Poverty is the fault of the feckless poor.

That attitude sickens me, not in an intellectual way but in a pick up a pitchfork kind of way. If you can read that and not feel anything for the dispossessed left behind in those mining villages I can't see why you feel strongly about being called names. You have no feelings.