To think that some left-wing supporters are just so NASTY

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This is based on posts I have read on here and a couple of very vocal left-wing friends I have on facebook.
I have truly never read a Conservative supporter personally attacking Labour in the same way.
I find it astonishing and if I am honest, a bit childish.
Recent examples include a website pulling Teresa May's living room apart and costing out every single thing in it, to a chorus of comments along the lines of how can she sleep at night when children are hungry and she has a £25 candle.
Every time the subject is raised on here, there is a long thread of hysterical comments about how nasty the Tories are. Yes, Tory supporters state their case and answer back, but they seem to be able to do it in a more restrained, mature manner than outraged Labour screamers.
There seems to be a lot of personal bile aimed at Teresa May, which I am at a loss to understand - just what has she done that is so terrible?
She is pushing through Brexit, but that was what the country voted for. Is she supposed to go against the country's wishes?
All of Labour's policies look very lovely, but none have any substance at all. My friend recently stated on Facebook she was supporting Jeremy Corbyn because he wanted peace not war. And? How is he going to implement that then? It reminds me of the 1980s T-shirts stating War is Stupid. Lots of nice words, but to implementation strategies.
It amazes me that supposedly intelligent people seem to be so brainwashed by this nonsense and think that flinging mud is an appopriate way to behave.
Is it just me?

No, Gertrude I'm not saying that.

I'm saying that people need to be a tad more specific. My life is rubbish because of the Tories, so if you vote for them YOU are making my life rubbish and so YOU are a nasty person ... blah blah.

It isn't making people go 'ooh okay I don't want to be a nasty person who makes Gertrude's life hard', it makes them go and tick 'conservative' on June 8.

YABU, and also pretty rude and unpleasant yourself as it goes.

But because I'm right wing, that makes me selfish, elitist, money grabbing, pig-shagging, smug etc etc.

Yours words, Red, your words!

Jus' kiddin', but seriously this does seem to be the received perception of the more paranoid on both sides of the divide. Can you really not see that it happens across the spectrum? Where have you all been hiding??

I see lots of criticism aimed directly and Corbyn and there have been all sorts of personal attacks on him and many members of his shadow cabinet for a long time in the media.

I think you are simply confirming your bias.

I suggest you read some of the charming tweets and blogs by Nadine Dorries, for example, to restore this apparent imbalance then OP.

I agree with unweaved. You are coming across as very dismissive and slightly superior OP, labelling people as nasty and saying horrible life events aren't important politically and their anger is misplaced is just...nasty in itself.

Also I see lots of points made about Labour not working together, but all the while its ignored that all of the leadership of the Tories from the last election has gone, the party had quite a bitter leadership election, has U turned on lots of policies even since May took over.

Yet they are portrayed in the media as being steady/

Calling people who've experienced true horrors "nasty" is just a way of silencing those less privileged than you. It's easy to play the game if you haven't got a stake in it.

I was coming to say exactly this. It's easy not to be offended when you're coming from a more privileged position.

Yeah, like the whinging liverpudlians for example.

Conservative party is taking money away from the people who have least. Nice.

It does seem likely that the reason the polls underestimated the Tory vote in the last election is, at least in part, down to people not feeling able to openly admit to wanting to vote that way.

I'm centre-left. I've seen lots of remarks and banners such as 'fuck off and die Tory scum', but never 'fuck off and die socialist scum'. The left are more vocally nasty and it's often embarrassing to be on the left myself. It's that whole thing of de-humanising people on the other side of debate as just evil monsters so it doesn't matter how you treat them.

Different story in America however. A vocal aggressive right ranting at "Libtards"

I have to hide the threads you're in OP. Such massive goady fuckery.

Maybe you don't rememember the days of Ken Livingstone at his height and Scargill? Honestly , everything and everyone here these days is so moderate and bland....

In some ways, when one looks at , say , French politics, this may not be a bad thing.

I come from Clydeside and the idea that Corbyn is some kind of looney left is, frankly , laughable.

I might not vote Labour. Too right wing for my tastes!

And surely, most of what you call vitriol is about being in opposition, where people tend to be more impassioned and outraged?

That Telegraph article someone linked to was hilarious - especially the bit where the writer derides the 'poor losers' who complained the election of 2015 had been rigged. Just remind me again, which is party being fined for spending too much on the campaign?

Disclaimer - I know that doesn't mean it was rigged, but you see the link.

I've never heard Katie Price being nasty about Lefties /sarcasm off/

Well, it's been demonstrated very recently that left-wingers love democracy ......... until the result isn't the one they want. Then the vile insults and vitriol come out. Stinking hypocrites.

I agree, I'm not Pro Tory at all but I do believe that we should all have the freedom to think and vote they way we feel is right... That's what democracy's about.
I do think there are a small but vocal group that try to bully people into seeing things their way.
A lovely lady I know through church votes Tory, she has her reasons, people were so nasty to her via Facebook and even in church that she ended up in tears on several occasions.
Healthy debate and expressing your opinions, bullying (even for the best of causes) is not.

Tiggy - you not seen Britain First and EDL ????

The word 'liberal' is even used as an insult in the US and the DM! In a very very nasty way.

Your view is just a way to try and silence the left from pointing out the reality of what the Tories have done to some people. We dont have to be nice about people who are doing so much harm to others - it's just the right wingers don't want to hear it.

The left celebrated the death of Maggie
We didn't celebrate the death of countless left wingers.

The left is made up of some principled people and very many nasty, vindictive, bitter c*nts

No, 'the left' did not do that. Some people did.

I read some vvvvvvvvv nasty stuff from 'the right' when Castro died.

I'm mixing up the OP with pinkand white - sorry.

I can't engage with people who use 'sigh' as a way to put people down.

I was trying to use a personal experience to explain why people get angry at a political position that seems inherently based on values that screw people 'beneath them'. It gets dismissed and explained away as nothing to do with politics. Which is bollocks. If you had a bit about you you would understand that domestic abuse, women's role in society, lone parenting, social poverty, class positioning and the gender pay gap are all political.

Remoaners
Lib Tards
Loony Left

I could go on for hours, the names I have seen the right throw out as well. As PP you get dickheads on both sides

And who is the biggest bully in politics?? Trump : darling of the right.

But that's OK : 'he says what he thinks' which is a virtue extolled by any right leaner that I know.

I'm in Scotland so there's a bit of a different set of issues but I think there's s different tone to the attacks from the two sides. I'm fairly centrist I'd say, but I tended to notice up here that it's "nobody likes a Tory voter, it cunts vote Tory", plus "you don't care about the poor or you'd vote yes" with regards to indyref from the left, whereas from the right it tends to focus on stupidity and a lack of economic understanding.

I've personally experienced more of the abusive name calling variety from the left