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To think that some left-wing supporters are just so NASTY

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cathf · 22/04/2017 14:22

This is based on posts I have read on here and a couple of very vocal left-wing friends I have on facebook.
I have truly never read a Conservative supporter personally attacking Labour in the same way.
I find it astonishing and if I am honest, a bit childish.
Recent examples include a website pulling Teresa May's living room apart and costing out every single thing in it, to a chorus of comments along the lines of how can she sleep at night when children are hungry and she has a £25 candle.
Every time the subject is raised on here, there is a long thread of hysterical comments about how nasty the Tories are. Yes, Tory supporters state their case and answer back, but they seem to be able to do it in a more restrained, mature manner than outraged Labour screamers.
There seems to be a lot of personal bile aimed at Teresa May, which I am at a loss to understand - just what has she done that is so terrible?
She is pushing through Brexit, but that was what the country voted for. Is she supposed to go against the country's wishes?
All of Labour's policies look very lovely, but none have any substance at all. My friend recently stated on Facebook she was supporting Jeremy Corbyn because he wanted peace not war. And? How is he going to implement that then? It reminds me of the 1980s T-shirts stating War is Stupid. Lots of nice words, but to implementation strategies.
It amazes me that supposedly intelligent people seem to be so brainwashed by this nonsense and think that flinging mud is an appopriate way to behave.
Is it just me?

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IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:25

Who will you vote for then Helena?

My mum always votes Labour as she's a dentist in the NHS. My dad is a floating voter. I think Corbyn is a misogynist anti-semite who would be a disaster for the country. I would vote Labour (were I old enough) under pretty much anyone but him.

HelenaDove · 23/04/2017 01:27

Im leaning between Labour and Lib Dem.

Dannythechampion · 23/04/2017 01:27

"You're talking about all immigrants, not Eastern Europeans. Me silly? My friend would be alive were it not for your ideological nonsense."

But EU citizens make up less than half of all immigrants.

You are referring to a personal case to you and then extrapolating this one case to make sweeping generalisations that are false.

ExplodedCloud · 23/04/2017 01:29

You're 17 Amy. Your parents are a QC and a dentist. Tell us what you know about being unemployed. About disability. Working 9-5 to pay a mortgage.

IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:31

Sorry, 50%.

IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:32

You're 17 Amy. Your parents are a QC and a dentist. Tell us what you know about being unemployed. About disability. Working 9-5 to pay a mortgage.

Ridiculous comment. Tell me what you know about your friend being murdered at 14 in a sexual crime?

IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:32

Don't assume you know things about someone's life. Pathetic.

HelenaDove · 23/04/2017 01:35

Amy Have you been drinking again. I remember you posting like this on a weekend in the past when you were.

You have lost a friend in a really horrific way. Im so sorry. Thanks

IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:38

Have you been drinking again

What a passive aggressive way of putting things...

I was out with friends earlier. I'll still get up tomorrow and do my Sunday job. I'll keep getting excellent grades. "Have you been drinking again" has rather insulting connotations Hmm

Dannythechampion · 23/04/2017 01:39

If that statistic is correct, and I doubt it, it means that nearly all Eastern European prisoners are in Wandsworth.

There are about 2,500 Eastern Europeans in UK Jails

Which as they make up 1.5 millon people in the UK means that 0.1% of Eastern Europeans in the UK are in Jail.

IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:40

Dannythechampion I'm done debating with you but you clearly don't know much about who's going through the criminal justice system. Nor the lives which have been lost due to them.

HelenaDove · 23/04/2017 01:41

Jesus all i meant was drinking due to greiving for your friend.

DH and i lost someone over Easter we have both known for 20 years.

I know what its like to lose a friend Amy.

Dannythechampion · 23/04/2017 01:44

Amy, I've produced the data for you to look at about who is going through the criminal justice system, it doesn't back your claims, and you have yet to post anything that has backed up what you are saying, despite being asked very politely.

ExplodedCloud · 23/04/2017 01:45

I knew someone murdered at 8 by British paedophiles.

ExplodedCloud · 23/04/2017 01:46

But top trumps and shit.

HelenaDove · 23/04/2017 01:49

It looks like a possibility that in the case of our friend it might have been medical negligence.

So to follow Amys logic all doctors must be negligent right?

Do you see how ridiculous your posts about Eastern Europeans are Amy?

IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:50

Not really, seeing as you were the one who insinuated I knew nothing. I never said anything about you.

IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:51

www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/footage-captures-moment-ealing-man-12923089

Just moments from my house, a man convicted last week.

Dannythechampion · 23/04/2017 01:55

That link doesn't back up your claims, it merely states that the foreign born number of prisoners has increased to 14%, which is about the same percentage as the foreign born make up of the population as a whole

My figures come from the HOC prison population statistics paper published at the end of 2016.

The top ten countries are:

Nationality Number % of all FN
Polish 917 9.4%
Irish 746 7.7%
Romanian 654 6.7%
Albanian 572 5.9%
Jamaican 514 5.3%
Lithuanian 430 4.4%
Pakistani 412 4.2%
Indian 373 3.8%
Somalian 335 3.4%
Nigerian 320 3.3%

If there are about 900,000 Poles in the UK and 917 are in Prison then there are again, about 0.1% of all Poles in the UK in Prison.

HelenaDove · 23/04/2017 01:57

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IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:58

I have no idea where you got those stats from but they are definitely wrong.

IAmAmy · 23/04/2017 01:59

Maybe you should "ditch the fucking alcohol" (sic) Helena seeing as I wasn't even posting towards you.

HelenaDove · 23/04/2017 02:01

Im teetotal and have never been drunk Its never appealed to me.

Its in my posting history Ive mentioned it on relevant threads in the past.