custy's resposnse to the xenia list that no one read. and no one will read this either - but hey ho.
- You are happier as you have a more balanced life.
says who? rather than stating it as a fact you should perhaps say I am happier....
- You earn money and can help your children by that - poverty is one of the best indicators of failure in children and we all know how expensive children are; money does matter.
people dont get out of poverty by only working you poor poor deluded woman. People get out of poverty through chance & education.
- You aren't dependent on a man to leech off for cash. So if he disappears abroad and gives up work when he takes up with a blonde 20 year old your children don't turn round and blame you for plunging them into poverty and on state benefits as you earn a good salary and their lives continue.
or you earn a rubbish salary - as many of the population do and thing becme more difficult - as we are not all able to live the xenia life.
- You are a good example to daughters and sons that women's role in the world is as much to lead and play a full part in the economic life of the country as to wipe bottoms and clear up male detritus at home.
again says who?
- You do more for the country as a tax payer and a contributor to whatever work you do - as doctor or nurse helping people or whatever the work is.
The sentence structure is por with this one - even i have difficulty understanding it, however i think you are compating taxes with lives saved?
- Latest surveys shows children with some nursery experiences do better in school, socialise better and do better in life.
what surveys - Prove your argument do a link.
stop presenting things as fact.
- You avoid the child being dependent and clingy never able to leave mother's side suffering from separation anxieties and never able to be left with anyone.
have you got any statistics to back this up? becuase i am sure many SAHMs can tell you of their boisterous children. FACTS
- You allow the child to be subject to other influences. You aren't a God. A s a mother you often get things wrong. Let the child be open to influences of many rather than indoctrination by you.
I am sure a SAHM do this, after all they dont put their children in a box away from society.
- You get a break, variety and aren't in the unnatural state of 24/7 mothering often isolated and fed up, depressed and on tablets. Instead you're out in the world with other adults having sane adult conversations. You feel much better.
You may have felt much better but for many etting children ready for work and balancing lifes shittyness is no better becuase you are at work. your argument seems to presuppose that SAHMS do not have friends t introduce new conversation.
- You're more likely to stay fit, dress better etc because you have to keep up the standards of the office so it's good for your self esteem than stuck at home covered in baby sick all day.
ranting? or have you anything other than opinion
- [ why did I say 20 I'm getting fed up with this list.....] Your husband helps more at home - there isn't that dreadful inequality and role division where woman equals cleaning up and service usually 7 days a week whilst he the male God gets out there and comes home to rest so you work 7 days a week at home and he barely 5. So you have a fairer more adult relationship with him rather than one of dependence and having to accept things you don't like because you're economically dependent on him - see 1950s housewife list.
i think your deluded when you both work all that happens is the woman ends up screeming " I WORK TOO< pull your fucking finger out"
a man doesn't automatically do thngs because you both earn money IMPO
- As you dress better for work, have interesting experiences each day to talk about rather than how many poos Johnny did and what vaccuous mother scorned you at play group you may be more attractive to your husband.
are you shitting me? i need to o to work to be attractive to my husband? what kind of fucking reasn is that? seriously read again xenia - you profess womens rights, equallity- hwever we should go to work to be more attractive to our husbands?
13. Power balance in the relationship may be better - more equal rather than he holds all the cards. Your work is as well paid and appreciated as his.
- Appreciation - although I love you mummy and adoring smiles are a lovely part all working and non working parents enjoy about having children, children don't go round patting you on the back. I get plaudits, applause, appreciation (as well as occasional abuse of course) in the course of work which is great and you don't get at home.
this is true in some workplaces not in all. this is the only benefit i can agree with thus far.
at work - you do get recognised for a job well done. in some workplaces
... how are we doing...
.......yawn actually....
- If you work you do what is natural as women always have worked. It is bizarre not to. If you work you continue the tradition of millennia of women working and keeping their children. It is the ancient and better way and links you with a tradition of women going back thousands of years.
yes another agreement hee - women have always worked mostly becuase they have been starving.
- Children appreciate you more. They see you as an interesting adult. Mine sometimes like to talk to friends about my work. They seem to like they might see a book I've written or whatever it might be. They have a pride in their parents' work nad it helps show them that women work, not that women stay at home and clean up mess.
children don't appreciate you more says who ? * facts please. SAHMS can be an interesting adult. My dauhter has very rich friends, the mothers stay a home becuase its a status symbal - like a JAG, so regarding the pride in parents work - there is mre status staying at home - depending on the affluence of the area in which you live.
- You get the best of all worlds - money, status, equality in your relationship if you choose to have a relationship with a man (or woman) at all (some of us are single), and all those lovely hours with babies and children. A great balance of work and family life as most couples have.
doesnt make it utopia.
- You avoid the uber mothering syndrome where the children are the be all and end all of your life, the little emperors who think the world revolves around them, whom you serve. You know every detail of their lives to the extent they virtually have no privacy. As they get older you intrude into their lives when they would rather be casting you off but if you're home that means redundancy. Hard adjustment.
points 7 & 8 regurgitated.
- It is deadly boring to be a housewife with virtually no thanks and very little appreciation or status and no pay. If you are lucky whilst still married but not usually once he divorces you, your husband if you have one may appreciate your role is as important as his - he may stay this but he may well nto believe it. You do housework day after day - do it and redo it. Clean the floor. Redo it. How any intelligent woman can like most of the role is beyond me. Even playing with a baby palls after a few hours, deadly dull and so demanding. They cry and cry and need to be held. It's much better for your mentla health if you work and have a break from that and then return refreshed and happy to the baby.
your stretching now - thats not even a reason its just going on with yourself
- It is morally wrong to be dependent on a man for money when you're a fully grown adult woman in 2007. I sit here looking at some people and I fell like I'm in the real world looking into cages of exhibits - Housewife Circa 2007. A temporary and dying breed or aberration.
morally wrong? to take the utmost pride in looking ater your children.
Let the scales fall from your eyes and hot foot it down to the employment agency tomorrow. There is your route to long term happiness. You will thank me for this. Go forth and think on these things for I am right.
LONG TERM HAPPINESS? isn't working at tesco ever fucking day with no way out.
LONG TERM HAPPINESS isnt workin in a factory for a catalogue company
LONG TERM HAPPINESS isnt making the disney tubes with crayons and pictures inside - you know the ones for 2p per tube. IN ENGLAND.
dont tell me - how dare you tell me long term happiness is gained through working - its partonising to those at the poor end of te spectrum who have nothing but poorly paid, rubbish jobs with no applause and little security. patronising and blinkered.