To think she should have informed me her kids are unvaccinated?

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I went to antenatal yoga with a lovely teacher, who then visited my house with her two children once my baby was born. I also attended her baby group several times with my DS, and her children were also present.

I've just found out that she's an anti-vaxxer, and I cannot stop thinking about the fact that she exposed my tiny baby to her unvaccinated kids, without my knowledge! AIBU to think she should have informed me before bringing her kids to my house, knowing my baby was too young to have been vaccinated yet?

And what about all the babies at the group - I get that it's her personal choice to not vaccinate (though I am vehemently against it) but as she is acting in a professional capacity surely she should be informing parents that her unvaccinated children will be there? I certainly would have thought twice about taking my DS before his vaccinations.

Meh. They are unvaccinated children,not plague dogs.

@bumbleymummy as I've already mentioned, she would have had no way of knowing that her children were not ill as many illnesses are asymptomatic initially. TBH I'd have been pissed off even if they'd had a cold and she'd brought them - I did my best not to knowingly expose my DS to any illnesses in those early days, as I'm sure many other parents do.

@bumbleymummy not before my DS was vaccinated, no! Whether you're not vaccinated for medical reasons or reasons of choice does not make you any more or less of a risk!

As @Bishopbrennansarse mentioned, her DD is relying on herd immunity, which my DS would not have had prior to being vaccinated.

InMemory, yes, I made the point about it not being any different in my first post. As well as saying that they're not automatically carrying all these illnesses around with them.

Newborns have antibodies from you in the early weeks. When you have several children you really don't have much choice about exposing your baby to potentially sick people - you have to be out and about from fairly early on. I wouldn't be too happy about someone who was coughing and sneezing holding my baby but you'd never be able to leave the house if you worried that everyone you came in contact with could be harbouring some dangerous disease.

YABU and pfb there are millions of people running round who are unvacinated what are you going to do keep your baby in a bubble for the rest of its life on the off chance that they catch something. My mum could walk out her front door and catch something she immuno compromised should she spend the rest of her life in doors just incase something like chicken pox puts her in the hospital.

It turns out that I never had the MMR and I have no chicken pox immunity. I only found this out when I had immunity tests done for work a couple of years ago.
So I have been walking around and giving birth to babies unaware that I am one of these risky people myself!

Your DS until vaccinated would have been relying in the same herd immunity as Brennan's DD.

What do you mean your son wouldn't have had herd immunity prior to being vaccinated?

Music posy the difference is a well developed immune system and an ability to cough and sneeze onto a tissue reliably

It's not selfish to refuse to have your children vaccinated, it's child abuse.

Tbh I don't really think people should take small children to visit newborns anyway unless they're a close relative. Kids are filthy

Do people really keep newborns in the house and not go out for the what? 8 weeks til they get their first vaccinations?

What is the vaccination schedule now anyway?

Doesn't bf provide immunity?

Nope they don't keep them in the house but they also try to avoid knowingly exposing them to disease.

YABU and pfb there are millions of people running round who are unvacinated what are you going to do keep your baby in a bubble for the rest of its life on the off chance that they catch something.

No because her child will have been vaccinated by then and therefore protected. You are using a straw man argument.

YANBU OP!

But because of herd immunity, the chance of an unvaccinated person encountering those viruses is remote.

There is only a tiny chance that her children would catch those diseases in the UK, pass them on to a newborn.

Chicken pox isn't even routinely vaccinated against in the UK, so that's always out there.

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They'll go out and accept that people without vaccines are very few. Can't hide away for 2 months.

That's very different from somebody bringing two unvacvinated children to visit a newborn when the visit is in a professional capacity. That is irresponsible and the mother should be aware of that before the visit takes place (other question is why are the instructors kids attending professional visits).

I don't think it should be something a non-vaxxer has to declare or wear a badge for, but when coming into regular contact with newborns, surely it's something which ought to come up in conversation to allow parents to make an informed decision for themselves?

In any other situation I'd say you were being a little PFB but for her to dedicate her career to spending time with vulnerable infants and not openly admit that her own DCs are unvaccinated and will be present seems a little ignorant on her part.

Tiny chance that will get bigger if immunisation rates fall. We're seeing it with TB.

Well after an initial brief hello visit when i figured my babies were covered by my immunity still I avoided my brother's (unvaccinated with MMR) older kids until mine had their first jab.

It's not like the risks on a street outing imo , children will play about in close quarters with babies on a visit among friends.

Basically sounds very harsh but I pretty much weeded out deliberate non vaxxers. I would have suspected the yoga teacher straightaway!

Just because they're not vaccinated doesn't mean they're carrying a disease

Are yoga teachers known for it? I never knew. My cousin'd training as a yoga teacher, she's a scientist!

Funny but yiu agree it makes it a he'll of a lot more likely surely?

Educate yourself OP
Vaccines do not equal 100% immunisation therefore your child could just as easily infect hers.