Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off her daughters to society millionaires & royalty or mere coincidence??

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Aibu to think that Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off Kate & Pippa to royalty & society millionaires?? Wills & James Matthews are hardly oil paintings, would the girls look at them twice if they worked in Tesco? Reading about Pippa's wedding tonight & it seems the sisters were both quite the social climbers in Marlborough which was encouraged by their mother? I have friends in similar circles & it seems they are very hard to break into if you are not "old money/landed gentry types" so I think Carole achieved what she set out to do! Roll on Pippa's wedding, looking forward to seeing the dress!

I'm not a huge fan of the royals. But I actually really like William (and Harry). I don't think William is ugly anyway, but he seems like a genuinely decent man. Both he and his brother have good humour, compassion and are able to hold a conversation with all kinds of people. If Mrs (and/or) Mr Middleton 'married her off' I'd say they did pretty well. This reminds me of the 'marrying well' thread.

Kittyguilt: Wills and Kate are the most mismatched couple. If you saw them walking down the high street and didn't know them you'd be wondering what on earth she was doing with him. Either a big cock or a lot of money. Or future king as it turns out wink. He has not aged well.

Careful dear. That speech savours strongly of disappointment. If your primary measure of a person's value is in their aesthetic appeal, I suspect you are going to live a largely unhappy life.

It's amazing to me how the very people on this thread who wonder why they haven't had much in the way of "proper jobs" can't see that their own behaviour is probably exactly why they haven't had much in the way of "proper jobs".

Imagine going into an office or workplace every day, wondering if the people quietly whispering at the back of the room are seething over the latest bit of tabloid gossip about you, or trading the naked pictures of you from France, or guessing what your mother did to put you in this position. Wondering if anyone there was only being nice to your face purely to get close to the royals. Wondering if people upstairs were secretly poking through your your emails, your CV, your personnel files, your bank account numbers, your phone number, your address, on the lookout for an easy tabloid cheque. Wondering if the next customer calling up wasn't actually a Daily Mail journalist pulling a fast one, maybe trying to wind you up to get an exposé of you being rude on the phone. What a miserable way to live. I'd end up crying myself to sleep every night, and damn right, I'd quit my job and just not bother.

'Kittyguilt: Wills and Kate are the most mismatched couple. If you saw them walking down the high street and didn't know them you'd be wondering what on earth she was doing with him. Either a big cock or a lot of money. Or future king as it turns out wink. He has not aged well.'
i wouldn't and dont think that. I dont think they are that aesthetically different anyway.

Whilst I feel sparechange is the most sensible post, I do like the idea the whole of Marlborough felt inferior because of how Kate and Pippa's name tags where sew in (as per linked article).

Also to believe Carole engineered the marriage you really do have to ignore a lot of logic and the existence of independent thought in others.

I also like the post about how William treated Catherine when they were dating - because of the bit where he apparently tried it on with loads of other girls but with little or no success. Well that seems likely: mind you if Catherine was the only person in the country that was willing to fall of his ways then it does explain how Carole was able to manage her crafty plan.

'I can say hand on my heart I LOVE Carole Middleton! She's my idol. What is not to love? Her grit? Her determination? The fact that she created a family with zero scandal? The fact that she's created a fairly big business? That she raised some decent children? That she's still maintains her teenager waistline?'

To be honest I find that sentiment just as weird as people who think she has magical son in law acquiring powers.

Donna Air is hardly "society"

But she does a really good impression of someone who IS! I couldn't believe it when I saw her speak recently. I remember her from her Byker Grove/MTV presenter days, and her Geordie accent used to be so thick. Now she is indistinguishable from an archetypal horsey society woman. She's even developed horsey teeth. It's bizarre

To that end, I don't think the Middletons sought her out for their son; she probably wanted to get in with them

Have to add that for the first few pages I got the impression Pippa Middleton was marrying Donna Air. You misleading lot, you.

Well said Sparechange

apparently in Marlborough that the Middletons were ridiculed as they always had the best of everything as opposed to second hand like alot of the old money pupils. Parents said they were made to feel inferior by the Middletons standard of perfection.

spaghetti, that Tatler piece was intended to make the Middletons look like clueless, brash arrivistes, all try-hard brand new tennis racquets, gleaming name tapes and lavish picnics, compared to old money's scruffy insouciance, and was almost certainly a spoof, anyway. (Plus Marlborough isn't particularly old money, anyway.)

It seems to me that Carole Middleton is being turned into a kind of latterday Wallis Simpson by certain parts of the media - scheming, skinny, social climbing, vulgar, infiltrating the royal family with her fiendish ways.

Plus, if we're making Pride and Prejudice parallels, can I point out that Jane and Lizzie marry 'well' despite their pushy, vulgar mother, not because of her?

I don't even get how that would work. Even if she did (not a clue if she did or didn't, and couldn't care less either!)
How on earth can you get someone to fall in love with you and marry you?!
They either fancy and want to be with you, or they don't - he won't have decided to start dating and consequently marry some randomer just because she did or didn't have a pushy mummy!!

I was called a snob in DCs last school. I'm not sure if this was because I always made the kids look well turned out (yes I know they dont come back home like that-you should have seen the state of my DS the other day), or walk in stinking of weed like some parents, I made sure my kids spoke properly and clearly. Apparently it was because i came across as 'stuck up' - i prefer the term guarded / reserved. Oh and also because I had the audacity to spend my money on a private assessment for DS, I think I was meant to piss it all up the wall like a 'normal' parent would do it was a state school and if that makes me a snob then I'll lace that metaphorical shoe up and wear it.

How could Carole have possibly engineered the marriage? He had the pick of the crop, quite literally, and he chose Kate out of everyone he could have. This thread just reminds me of that bit in Titanic where Rose's Mother bitches about the gobby lady being 'new money'.

Also to the PP who mentioned about her not doing charity work, does being the patron (sorry if not the right word) of several charities not mean anything then?

TizzyDongue: I also like the post about how William treated Catherine when they were dating - because of the bit where he apparently tried it on with loads of other girls but with little or no success. Well that seems likely

The absurdity of that logic is beautiful. On the one hand you have to believe that William simply couldn't meet a gold-digger no matter how hard he tried, and then on the other you have to imagine that CM was the only gold-digging mother to send her daughter to university at the same time - contrary to all the other theories that everyone was sending their daughters to try to bag him. So, erm, no one was trying to bag him, and yet, everyone was. Or... something.

I wonder how carefully tabloids think these theories through before publishing them?

Ffs, cuntybollx of a thread.

William was supposed to be in love with Jecca Craig & then Isabella Calthorpe

What a nasty, small minded and misogynistic OP.

I'm not a royalist but I'm pleased to see how many people have defended Wills and Kate, the Middeltons and their daughters' right to go to university of their choice and marry who they wish.

I have no idea why Kate is the subject of such petty jealousy, I don't envy her lifestyle at all. She must live in constant fear of the paparazzi and possible terrorists attacks on her children.

Money is great but it's not everything .

Feeling a tad jealous, OP?
Or do you work for the DM?

I bet Wills wouldn't look at a supermarket checkout girl either.

How on earth can you get someone to fall in love with you and marry you?!

Maybe she found out some dirt on William and forced him to marry Kate.
They look so miserable together.

I don't think they look miserable together. They always look happy to me. Kate looks pretty chirpy most of the time in the papers.

How on earth can you get someone to fall in love with you and marry you?!

HAHAHA

The naivety of some posters is refreshing. (I had friends in Marlborough too, it's funny the account vary immensely from what another poster said.)

I do love how being negative about the Middleton = jealousy
but being negative about the Kardashian= good taste

William was supposed to be in love with Jecca Craig & then Isabella Calthorpe

In love? He was a teenager ffs

Do people really believe this shit they read in the rags?

The same press which confidently reported Kate was 'furious' about being left at home with the children while William 'swanned off skiing with his friends' after he was papped in Verbier

That's all gone quiet since it transpired she was also skiing that same weekend - in Meribel with her sister where they managed to avoid paps and therefore it didn't actually happen in DailyMail-land

I'll have you know that William was actually in love with me but I turned him down because I can't stand the idea of being famous. It's not in the tabloids because the government paid millions to cover it up because 9/11 and chemtrails and stuff.

Crapuccino. My sympathies. Same happened to me but with Prince Harry!

I do know someone who was at St Andrews the same time as Kate and William but the most gossip she can come up with is that William used to occasionally flirt with a sporty tomboy girl and that Kate used to be irritated by this.

Pretty weak in the scintillating scandal stakes.