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Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off her daughters to society millionaires & royalty or mere coincidence??

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user1473882712 · 18/04/2017 22:51

Aibu to think that Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off Kate & Pippa to royalty & society millionaires?? Wills & James Matthews are hardly oil paintings, would the girls look at them twice if they worked in Tesco? Reading about Pippa's wedding tonight & it seems the sisters were both quite the social climbers in Marlborough which was encouraged by their mother? I have friends in similar circles & it seems they are very hard to break into if you are not "old money/landed gentry types" so I think Carole achieved what she set out to do! Roll on Pippa's wedding, looking forward to seeing the dress!

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nInachu · 25/04/2017 11:20

Also The Matthews family are rich but not 'society', they are self made people ( which is fine) but are not old money at all.

But who cares.

BarryKwipkee · 25/04/2017 12:16

Did MM used to go out with Jonathan Rhys meyers?

TheDowagerCuntess · 25/04/2017 19:10

Who's MM?

Jonathan Rhys-Meyers played an unrealistically good-looking version of Henry VIII in The Tudors.

xForsythia · 25/04/2017 20:39

I wonder if Meghan's mum is also guilty of being a manipulative, social climbing performer of voodoo?
At least Meghan has her own personality, her career and hasn't wasted her entire youth trying to marry a man - and succeeding to be fair. You have the admire the determination of anyone who apply 10 years of their life, at least, on one goal.

KateMiddletonsOtherMum · 25/04/2017 20:47

OK I ADMIT IT!!! I paid off the Queen Mother's, Margaret's and Fergie's debts on the proviso that my daughter becomes Queen. OK???? SATISFIED? ???????????????????????

MrsJamesMathews · 25/04/2017 22:54

xForsythia does being such a vindictive bitch not keep you awake at night? Just wondering.

You have no idea what Kate is like, what she has or hasn't been doing all her adult life.

What is very undeniably clear though is the huge positive impact Kate has had, and will continue to have, on those affected by mental health illness.

Her determination and passion has driven the HeadsTogether campaign to the success it is obviously turning out to be.

Everyone involved in this campaign is succeeding in challenging prejudices against mental health illness and opening up the dialogue for those affected. But it was Kate's idea to do this. Not some PR guru, not the Princes', not anyone else's. Hers.

She has worked to raise awareness for charities dealing with the bereaved, the imprisoned, the addicted, the sick, the displaced. She has seen a common theme of mental health issues and decided to help change the national dialogue to bring about early intervention.

Through hard work and good sense her parents made themselves a lot of money. Kate and her siblings were due to live a nice, wealthy life in relative anonymity. But then she fell in love. With the future King.

So with that twist of fate she now has to live with having random nasty strangers like you regularly make rude, defamatory and unfounded comments about her all over the internet.

Every time she works she has to groom herself to the nth degree in order to avoid any wrinkle or grey hair overshadowing the cause she's promoting. She is subject to ruthless media scrutiny, the most horrendous personal intrusions and has to be followed around by security. And she does all this with the utmost decorum, good manners and elegance.

Theycalledmethewildrose · 25/04/2017 23:54

MrsJamesMatthews What a nice post. I also remember reading a post here from someone who worked in KM's house (doing interior design perhaps) and they said irl she was every bit as nice as she appears in public.

Their mental health campaign is excellent. I hope it continues and grows.

TaraCarter · 26/04/2017 00:02

KateMiddletonsOtherMum That's a lot of gin. Shock

MrsJames

[applause]

mimishimmi · 26/04/2017 00:08

So how exactly would she manage that?

Lweji · 26/04/2017 00:12

I paid off the Queen Mother's, Margaret's and Fergie's debts on the proviso that my daughter becomes Queen.

I don't buy it. Surely there was something for the Step Mother too.

Did you buy truck loads of Duchy something or other?

TaraCarter · 26/04/2017 00:27

Lweji, I hear from a close source that they had to build an extension to store the crates of Duchy Originals biscuits! For the last five years, everyone, and I mean everyone, that Kate's mum and dad knows has received a box of biscuits for Christmas, their birthday and Valentine's.

There are still 2 gross left, and people have stopped being graceful when accepting to Carole's face now.

marilyntaylor · 26/04/2017 01:01

Mrs James Matthews What an excellent post. You've just put into words exactly what I've been thinking. Smile

MrsJamesMathews · 26/04/2017 01:10

Why, thank you ladies. I will take a 🏅 and a 🏆 and a ⭐️

I apologise to xForsythia though for calling her a vindictive bitch. It was possibly a step too far. Besides, as my 7yo often points out, two wrongs don't make a right.

C0RA · 26/04/2017 01:48

Well said Mrs James

I am not a fan of the royal family as an institution but I hate these misogynistic and unfounded attacks on individuals within it who are trying their best to do a good job.

xForsythia · 26/04/2017 07:37

MrsJamesMathews are you being paid by the PR company, or are you easily convinced by a couple of media campaigns?

Give me a break about the astonishing work of Catherine. If you are convinced that she has devoted her private time as a single woman to achieve something, but has chosen to kept it completely secret, fine. That's what you do when you work on something important, and worthy, you do keep it away from the media, you do not want to attract attention for a great cause do you. You ensure the utmost secrecy is kept, just in case others could want to join in your efforts... Hmm

Then contradicting yourself, you ramble about a campaign where Kate shows off a couple of time and wave. No one is saying that doesn't benefit the campaign somehow, but it's interesting that one of her greatest achievement there for you is not to have a grey hair on show Grin
If even one of her great supporter like you has to mention her clothes and hair as her best achievements.. well, it says it all really. To give a fair comparison, posters about other ladies married to royals in other countries have a lot more to say than than their appearance, however attractive and very well dressed these other ladies are Grin

I might be old fashion, but exposing your lack of underwear in public is hardly the epitome of decorum and elegance when you know what the press is like. It's funny that people look down on Kim Kardashian, but glorify Kate because one has married a royal and the other has not.

So go on insulting me because you can't find better arguments, if it helps you feel better, it's the beauty of internet. Flowers

VanillaSugar · 26/04/2017 08:10

xforsythia the bitterist pill is hardest to swallow. Or something.

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