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Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off her daughters to society millionaires & royalty or mere coincidence??

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user1473882712 · 18/04/2017 22:51

Aibu to think that Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off Kate & Pippa to royalty & society millionaires?? Wills & James Matthews are hardly oil paintings, would the girls look at them twice if they worked in Tesco? Reading about Pippa's wedding tonight & it seems the sisters were both quite the social climbers in Marlborough which was encouraged by their mother? I have friends in similar circles & it seems they are very hard to break into if you are not "old money/landed gentry types" so I think Carole achieved what she set out to do! Roll on Pippa's wedding, looking forward to seeing the dress!

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savedbythebell · 21/04/2017 00:13

No you haven't. You seem to be comparing the queen with the pope, just because one is head of the Roman catholics, the other of the church,of England. Apart from them both being heads i still don't get what on earth the two have to do with each other. If you're implying the pope should be able to marry or be a woman you sound ridiculous. The queen has nowhere near the importance of the pope.

TheDowagerCuntess · 21/04/2017 00:27

You asked for an example of a Catholic injustice.

Catholicism discriminates against its own believers - 50% of them, in fact.

Women can't even be priests, let alone the Pope. Why do you think the idea is so ridiculous?

You think the status quo - men only - is absolutely fine, but are completely aerated by the fact a Catholic can't marry the head of a totally different religion.

You seem to be really struggling to get this.

savedbythebell · 21/04/2017 00:34

No i didn't ask for an example of catholic injustice. I asked for something comparable to the marriage rules in the rf. Catholism has its rules the same as any other religion. They aren't going to change their rules to suit political correctness. I've heard of some outrageous rules in other religions, have a go at them instead of spouting hatred towards Catholism.

savedbythebell · 21/04/2017 00:38

But fine, carry on with your outdated views on the discrimination against catholics in the RF. You sound worse than the people you are criticising.

savedbythebell · 21/04/2017 00:44

Also the catholic faith has to follow what is perceived as Christs intentions, his apostles were all male, therefore a male pope is deemed what Christ wanted. Why should the catholic church go against Christs intentions. It is not discrimination at all, it is following Christ. So don't come out with all that discrimination against women crap.

mathanxiety · 21/04/2017 00:47

savedbythebell Thu 20-Apr-17 21:49:46
Math like we really can't change laws

No, laws really can't be changed in this case. The monarch is the Head of the Church of England and must therefore be a member of the CoE. This is an absolutely integral part of what makes the Church of England the Church of England. It can't be separated from the constitutional history that created it.

MommaGee · 21/04/2017 00:52

Guys! Focus!!! We need to get back to sorting out CM's voodoo for my son and Princess Charlotte

llangennith · 21/04/2017 00:59

I tried hard to get rich husbands for my DD but they ended up marrying people they love. I'm such a failure.

TheDowagerCuntess · 21/04/2017 01:19

Catholism has its rules the same as any other religion. They aren't going to change their rules to suit political correctness.

So says you, who excepts the Church of England to change their rules to suit political correctness. Confused

I'm discussing this with you on the assumption that you actually know how the C of E came about, but I'm beginning to wonder if you don't, which would certainly explain things....

As for Christ, I have a higher opinion of him than you do, clearly - I think he'd be juuuuust fine with women having a leading role in the church, in this day and age. Wink

saffronwblue · 21/04/2017 01:30

I wouldn't want my child becoming a target for terrorists and other nutters through who she chose to marry.
I'm no great fan of the Middletons but they do seem to have a close intact family which must be a nice respite for William to be part of.
I also think that most people do not marry their first undergraduate partner. It seemed much more likely that Kate would be a kind of safestarter girlfriend and William would go on to marry someone else that he met in his late 20s.

TizzyDongue · 21/04/2017 05:12

Hang on a minutée, James got "pissed drunk & urinating in public (while being held up by Carole ", James is the brother isn't he, and isn't Pippas fiancé? Not exactly the best way to me the future mother in law, not really.

Lweji · 21/04/2017 05:28

So don't come out with all that discrimination against women crap.

It's sad, indeed that the Catholic leaders have been coming out with that discrimination against women crap too.
It's not a matter of faith. Only tradition. Christ didn't only have male followers or friends. He chose to appear first, after resurrection, to a woman.

Many catholics have long felt that women should be ordained as priests.

But I digress...

BaggyCheeks · 21/04/2017 09:10

Shitting hell. As far as members of the Church of England are concerned, the Queen is more important than the Pope. Of course the head of any religion shouldn't be marrying a practising member of any other religion. Otherwise it makes it look like they're supporting the idea that there's a valid religious view other than those of the religion that they're the head of. If you read anything at all about the history of the establishment of he CofE the reasoning is clear. The fact that Catholic priests, and by extension the Pope, can't marry is irrelevant in that context.

ilikespaghetti · 21/04/2017 09:20

James the brother was the one pissed in public & urinating in public whille Carole tried to shield to him from cameras. The palace were going apeshit apparently

LaurieMarlow · 21/04/2017 10:04

Wow, you'd think the palace would retain a sense of perspective given the shit the royal family have served us up over the years.

From overt racism, to close friendships with corrupt dictators, to misuse of public funds, to friendships with child molesters, to naked parties in vegas, to nazi dress up sessions.

In comparison getting a bit drunk in public hardly merits going 'apeshit'. Double standards much? Hmm

sparechange · 21/04/2017 10:22

I tried hard to get rich husbands for my DD but they ended up marrying people they love. I'm such a failure

The two aren't mutually exclusive though.
And if you run with a crowd that is almost exclusively rich and powerful, there is a pretty good chance that you'll fall in love with one of them

originalbiglymavis · 21/04/2017 10:27

My sister went out with a millionaire (and this was in the 70s so it was suuuuuuper rich in those days). She didn't know it at the time.

KateMiddletonsOtherMum · 21/04/2017 10:40

I will not haiv the good name of me family besmirched laik this.James was tried and emotional. It's not my fault that he looks like he doesn't have a pot to piss in.

ShowMeWhatYouGot · 21/04/2017 12:10

Some people still marry just for love.

originalbiglymavis · 21/04/2017 12:29

Love and money would be rather nice.

As my mother used to say in a very very dramatic way when she looked into a mirror (jokingly I may add), 'sighhhh, oh why oh why was I not born rich but beautiful?'

AwaywiththePixies27 · 21/04/2017 12:37

Ah you never know MNers. The bloke everyone used to avoid like the plague because he was the eccentric type, well it transpired in our last year he happened to be a millionaire. Stranger things have happened.

originalbiglymavis · 21/04/2017 12:37

Who was that then?

MommaGee · 21/04/2017 12:39

So you mean someone personally you avoided?

AwaywiththePixies27 · 21/04/2017 12:39

Sorry missed out an important part of my post. I meant at university. Which was over a decade ago now.

savedbythebell · 21/04/2017 13:40

dowager the church of england was founded on a whim by henry v111, when it suited him to break away from rome, so i can't take it too seriously. Catholism on the other hand was passed down to St. peter by Christ. I'm sure if he wanted a woman pope he would have had women amongst his apostles. I refuse to acknowledge the royal family anyway so don't waste your time arguing with me. But then again that's all you seeem to want to do, carry on keep derailing the thread.