Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off her daughters to society millionaires & royalty or mere coincidence??

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Aibu to think that Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off Kate & Pippa to royalty & society millionaires?? Wills & James Matthews are hardly oil paintings, would the girls look at them twice if they worked in Tesco? Reading about Pippa's wedding tonight & it seems the sisters were both quite the social climbers in Marlborough which was encouraged by their mother? I have friends in similar circles & it seems they are very hard to break into if you are not "old money/landed gentry types" so I think Carole achieved what she set out to do! Roll on Pippa's wedding, looking forward to seeing the dress!

It was repealed in 2013 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_to_the_Crown_Act_2013

glasgoo I think you're right op. Something very contrived about the whole thing.
Can you or the op explain how got Wills to marry Kate so I can make Charlotte marry DS?

The unguarded moments at the Olympics they seemed really sweet

So what? She's hardly going to pay thousands to educate her daughters at one of the top public schools in the country and NOT hope they will 'get on' on society, is she? Obviously she wanted them to be part of a particular social circle, or she would have sent them to the schools I have taught/teach in.

You sound jealous, OP.

Oh. hooray.

Surely Kate just got lucky meeting him at uni and then Pippa was hardly going to marry Mr average with her new found celbrity status!

No, was Mrs CM voodoo

How did Carol actually manage to "marry" Kate off? Confused

There was some Lady Macbething going on in the background on Carol Middleton's part of course - thunder and lightening, a large cauldron, animal sacrifices, mind-control potions, all the usual. You know how it goes down in these terribly rich Chelsea circles.

I am still waiting on OP to share her links to the exact details of how one goes about this.

The idea that William just fell in love with Catherine is of course inconceivable.

I blame the Royals.

They conducted a covert "Who's got bride talent?" and selected Kate for being a nice mild mannered girl for Wills. Getting her mother on board was the easiest part.

Here's to the day when marrying someone "royal" or rich won't be seen as succeeding at life

Because the Monarch is the head of the Church of England, not the Church of Rome.

Having a family member taking their religious instructions from the Pope would be a bit awkward, don't you think?

hmm

That doesn't make sense, why would it be awkward what religion the royals spouse was.

soupdragon what is the state education system getting away with?

Here's to the day when marrying someone "royal" or rich won't be seen as succeeding at life wine

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That doesn't make sense, why would it be awkward what religion the royals spouse was.

Because the royal spouse also happens to be head of a religion. Am I missing something?

If the Pope was able to marry, you'd hardly expect him to get wed to a nice Jewish girl. Likewise, even a lowly rabbi would be highly unlikely to marry a Muslim.

We're talking about the Head of the Church of England. I can't really understand why anyone would expect him/her to marry anyone other than another Protestant. And I say this as someone who has no truck with organised religion at all...

Besides the succession act was repealed a couple of years ago, as a PP says.

alltouchedout: Here's to the day when marrying someone "royal" or rich won't be seen as succeeding at life

I find it almost mind boggling that the vast majority of people are so convinced that wealth, fame, or marrying a royal is the shortcut to all earthly happiness. If you just sit and think about any of those fates for more than a few minutes with your eyes wide open, there are so many down sides.

Pippa is batting below her average. Her last BF, George Percy, who is an earl is set to inherit a dukedom and is one of the wealthiest men in the UK - makes wotshisface look like a pauper. And if you know your history you'd know the Percys have been the most powerful family in England for 1,000 years.

Georges sister, Lady Melissa is married to Thomas van Straubenzee who is godfather to Prince George and a close friend of both Princes William and Harry.

ponders Maybe there is a touch of the Elizabeth Woodvilles after all !

In reality, the Percys wi

In reality, the Percys have far more history and background than the Windsors, Pippa is a new arrival on the social scene.

Hmm. I love these gossipy royal threads.
I wouldn't be in Kates' shoes for anything. Constant constant scrutiny. She could've married any old hedge funder if it was just money. Or indeed become one. The best person to marry woukd be some sort of earl or lord. You are in the circle but you can always retreat to a more private life if you want and no one cares that much. Thars where Carole and Kate missed a trick. Empty headed females that they are.
In conclusion, I think two university students fell in love and got married. Odd but thats the rich for you

Ha ha crossed with the Percy posts.

When you say powerful how so? In modern times just rich, I suppose?

You are in the circle but you can always retreat to a more private life if you want and no one cares that much. Thars where Carole and Kate missed a trick. Empty headed females that they are

Hmm, well if the whole thing was orchestrated, then I don't think they're empty-headed at all.

Kate, and by association her family, go down in the annals of history now, forever remembered. Directly related to the (future) King of England. Written and learnt about forever. Household names across the globe.

As the commoner wife of a nobleman, this certainly wouldn't be the case.

I wonder if William does his fair share of nappies?

When you say powerful how so? In modern times just rich, I suppose No. Wealth plays a small part. The most powerful families in the UK came over with the Normans, they have quietly been behind the throne for a millennium, in positions of power throughout Whitehall. Those relationships don't die off and go away. Thrones and royal lines come and go, but families don't!

Thedowager Well it showed how ridiculous it was because as you say it was repealed. But why would it have been so wrong anyway, i'm a catholic, my dh is a protestant, no big deal. Why should it be a bigger deal for them. Religious discrimination should have had no place in the monachy.

I'm actually amazed that in this day and age you think a monarch should only marry a protestant.

Dowager what good are the annals of history though? Money and status without the unpleasantness of this pap soaked age is much more pragmatic. Unless Carole really was playing the long game on behalf of her great great children. We have been underestimating her!

I don't actually think their mum is this massively manipulating she-devil as the press like to portray. How is it even possible? I do however, think she facilitated opportunity and if it hadn't been jackpot William then it would have been someone equally wealthy.

Their parents sent them to the correct school which gave them a perfect start by introducing them to the right class of person.

I guess they just used their feminine wiles to catch their men. Maybe like in the days of old (not trying to be disparaging) but maybe the girls have certain talents?

I imagine that buying the children a little pied a terre in Chelsea and presumably giving them an allowance to keep them in fancy clothes and hats and shoes while they forged their social connections fledgling careers and spent lots of time pursuing athletic endeavours helped them along the way towards bagging their OHs.

I always think Kate looks incredibly smug to have bagged William (you know, cos he's a prince and all that) and that Pippa's suitors always appear to be smug at having bagged William's sister in law. I think P would be bloody hard work and she'd churn through your cash like nobody's business.