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Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off her daughters to society millionaires & royalty or mere coincidence??

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user1473882712 · 18/04/2017 22:51

Aibu to think that Carole Middleton went out of her way to marry off Kate & Pippa to royalty & society millionaires?? Wills & James Matthews are hardly oil paintings, would the girls look at them twice if they worked in Tesco? Reading about Pippa's wedding tonight & it seems the sisters were both quite the social climbers in Marlborough which was encouraged by their mother? I have friends in similar circles & it seems they are very hard to break into if you are not "old money/landed gentry types" so I think Carole achieved what she set out to do! Roll on Pippa's wedding, looking forward to seeing the dress!

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ilikespaghetti · 19/04/2017 15:55

I think Pippa did better than Kate in the long run, James Matthews seems to genuinely adore her & Pippa seems to be able to get on with her priviliged life with less intrusion than Kate. Still agree with other posters that their mother engineered this lifestyle for them, their father seems to be more relaxed

user1485342611 · 19/04/2017 15:58

William also seems to genuinely adore Kate.

nothercupoftea · 19/04/2017 16:00

Crapuccino

you are being incredibly naive if you believe all the pictures are invasion of privacy". At the very least, the ones taken during public and well advertised events are hardly invasive^, are they.

It's funny how some famous people manage to be incredibly private, whilst others are forever "chased" by paparazzi, whilst their photos would sell for the same if not more. Their PR are doing a very good job if you believe all the photos are innocent and clandestine.

honeyfull · 19/04/2017 16:08

These kinds of matches happen all the time amongst people who move in the same circles.

The only reason this is of any interest is because her sister is part of the Royal Family.

Best of luck to the happy couple.

Crapuccino · 19/04/2017 16:09

nothercupoftea: Crapuccino you are being incredibly naive if you believe all the pictures are ^invasion of privacy". At the very least, the ones taken during public and well advertised events are hardly invasive, are they.

You think paparazzi literally crouching on the ground to get a shot up a woman's skirt as she gets out of a car aren't invasive? I beg to differ.

It's funny how some famous people manage to be incredibly private, whilst others are forever "chased" by paparazzi, whilst their photos would sell for the same if not more.

Some people manage to not be Catherine Middleton, the woman who married the future king of England, whose every move is of intense interest to both supporters and detractors, and who is a politically, diplomatically, and socially sensitive figure whether she likes it or not. There aren't many positions for "future queen of England who will be the first woman not to come from nobility/royal blood".

Their PR are doing a very good job if you believe all the photos are innocent and clandestine.

I find it infinitely more believable that seedy little paparazzi are scrabbling about trying to earn seedy little cheques by repeatedly invading privacy than that some of the wealthiest and most famous people in the country are organising these photos, which are often not all that flattering or positive, in return for... what... more fame? More money?

But I get it. You like complicated conspiracy theories. Have at them. We neither of us have proof either way. You think I'm naive. I think you are too. C'est la vie.

Headinthedraw · 19/04/2017 16:31

How old is Prince George?Just working our when he will be at university and if I should get my DD to take a 3 or 4 year gap year in order to be there the same time as him.

Bringmesunshite · 19/04/2017 16:40

We're Catholics so we're out of the running for this mythical manipulation and arranging of marriages.

Oblomov17 · 19/04/2017 16:44

Can't even get mine to change their socks. Ha ha.

VladmirsPoutine · 19/04/2017 17:01

Bring How strong is your faith? Grin

DrasticAction · 19/04/2017 17:18

Not Read thread but these men and the girls are not short of plenty of admirers, you cant fake love you cant live together if you dont get on and love each other, I cant see why any of them would settle for second best in love?

Kate and Pippa are not from extreme poverty backgrounds where a lack of money may influence their decisions. They move in those circles that's all there is too it really.

I know one girl who went to M and is not in those circles at all.

savedbythebell · 19/04/2017 17:28

We're Catholics so we're out of the running for this mythical manipulation and arranging of marriages.

I find it abhorrent that in the 21st century such blatant discrimination against catholics still continues. What other institution would be allowed to get away with such an outrage. Just one reason amongst many why i detest everything the RF stand for.

MitzyLeFrouf · 19/04/2017 17:37

Isn't Harry's beloved a Catholic?

MommaGee · 19/04/2017 17:38

I've decided that I wouldst want DS to have the pressure of the crown and in unsure if the Royal family will support gay marriage within 20 years so I've settled on Charlotte. DS is about 3 weeks younger than her sip same Uni year.
I'm already perpetuating the story that DS's scars are from rescuing Charlotte from a crocodile. We're a working class family from the Midlands but it doesn't matter - everyone knows princesses marry their heroes and plus I shall will it and use my CM MAGIC

MrsJamesMathews · 19/04/2017 18:09

Because the Monarch is the head of the Church of England, not the Church of Rome.

Having a family member taking their religious instructions from the Pope would be a bit awkward, don't you think?

Hmm
MommaGee · 19/04/2017 18:15

Re Kate's passion - wasn't there something about her being encouraged to give up her rowing team because of William?
Its also clear she's into her photography as many of the chikdrebs photos are taken by her. I imagine it would be quite harphotographer forge a career as a photographer but no doubt she made Will hang a few photos up around the homes!

MitzyLeFrouf · 19/04/2017 18:18

Having a family member taking their religious instructions from the Pope would be a bit awkward, don't you think?

They might to update their banned list to include all the other religions in that case don't you think?

SoupDragon · 19/04/2017 18:28

What other institution would be allowed to get away with such an outrage

The state education system?

maddiemookins16mum · 19/04/2017 18:33

Blimey, didn't both the parents work really hard to earn their money (as we all do). William and Kate were in love at Uni, it happens. At least he never had to wait until he was paired up with a youngster (like Diana) to breed an heir.

glasgoo · 19/04/2017 18:37

I think you're right op. Something very contrived about the whole thing.

sparechange · 19/04/2017 19:10

Re Kate's passion - wasn't there something about her being encouraged to give up her rowing team because of William?

Nope. She joined a dragon boat team during the time they had split up
But every time she went to train, the paps appeared and photographs of all the team were splashed in the press.

She quit the team to spare the rest of them from the press intrusion that would only take place if she was part of it

TheDowagerCuntess · 19/04/2017 19:14

They might to update their banned list to include all the other religions in that case don't you think?

To be honest, I can't see George being given the green light to marry a practicing Muslim or Jew in a million years.

Theycalledmethewildrose · 19/04/2017 19:17

Obviously I don't know KM (or I wouldn't be contributing to this thread) and I don't believe the royal family should still be there but I acmit I found KM endearing when she was interviewed after her engagement when she said she wasn't happy that they had split up while dating. I realise it was rehearsed but I like to think it was rrefreshibgly honest and the type of thing many women would have thought. I also felt for her as she was shaking with nerves.

Bringmesunshite · 19/04/2017 19:23

I actually think it is only us Catholics that are specifically barred from marrying Royalty insofar as any children could not be Catholics.

There are historical reasons for it to do with the Head of or potential head of the Church of England can't be a Catholic- Henry VIII, James II and all that.

Surprised that so many people don't know this. But then, surprised at how many people have suddenly got upset about the unelected House of Lords as if this is something we kept secret.

Bringmesunshite · 19/04/2017 19:25

Oh yeah, and there's never been a Catholic prime minister- they get to choose bishops for the C of E but it's never come up before.

Bringmesunshite · 19/04/2017 19:27

Hilarious that a pp thinks that Catholics do what the pope tells them to do.