Who to vote for in General Election?

[Pariswhenitdrizzles]

Aargh.

Would normally vote for Lib Dems (feel like I should apologise for this!), and voted for them in the last two elections. In an ideal world, I'd vote for them or Labour, but I'm not keen on Jeremy Corbyn's (or Tim Farron's) leadership. Really don't want to vote Conservative.

Wondering perhaps about voting for the Women's Equality Party? They seem pretty good, but are still quite a small party.

What does everyone else think?

I would vote SNP, but I'm not in Scotland.

Argh the suspense is killing me - I already want to know who we'll be waking up to on 9th June!!! What are everyone's predictions? A wave of blue...?

I would too Monger. Id also be voting for Plaid Cymru if I were Welsh. And as I'm English, I'd like a separate English National Party to vote for.

What are everyone's predictions? A wave of blue...?

Definitely a Tory majority but a few unknown factors. Substantial amounts of money going into campaigns for Brexit based tactical voting - we can assume that will help the LibDems so they are fighting the election effectively with more funds and volunteers at their disposal than normal. Also, in some areas of the country people currently thinking of voting Tory may in the end feel unable to do so. Oddly, the enormous poll lead may work a little bit in Labour's favour, people might feel they can safely vote Labour without actually risking Corbyn being PM.

Oddly, I was thinking last night about whether Corbyn actually would "ruin the country" if he became PM. Firstly, sensible heavyweights who wouldn't serve in his Shadow Cabinet would presumably serve in a government. He would spend more but our debt is so colossal anyway we would probably hardly notice it and hewould probably have a soft Brexit so that would save us a lot of money by averting a prolonged recession. He 's unlikely to start any wars and ironically his reputation for being cosy with terrorists might actually keep us safer. He'd look like an idiot on the foreign stage but then I remember all the talk about Miliband - would he stand up to Putin etc? Well, as far as I can see Putin doesn't give a f**k about what any British PM does so would that matter? May is acting like Trump's poodle anyway and Boris Johnson has trashed our reputation anyway.

I've tended to think that a Corbyn PM ship would be a disaster but thinking about it specifically it was quite hard to come up with how exactly he would wreck the predicted havoc!! Tony Blair always looked the safest of safe bets and his Iraq escapade has probably brought more trouble to the UK than Corbyn would do

I love your thinking HPFA. Now all you have to do is persuade all the Labour MPs still dissing him left right and centre to go and say that - Chuka I'm looking at you.

I love your thinking HPFA

Than you!! It was just an odd thought experiment that I as much as anyone had been saying I couldn't see JC as PM but when I thought about what he might actually DO it was hard to see specifically how he would ruin the country. Most likely, he'd enjoy himself going to rallies and the civil servants would do the real work based on actual evidence and practicalities. It would probably be a very successful government!

Still, it might be hard to sell on the doorstep "Yes, our Leader is incompetent and for that reason is unlikely to do any real damage"

Really interesting point about Jeremy Corbyn HPFA - I also love your thinking :)

Have just heard how many more members the Lib Dems have been getting as well recently - I just hope that all of this translates into votes for them and for Labour (and ultimately for seats!!)

Lib Dems will gain about 30 seats I think. Labour will lose many.

Tories will end up with a big majority.

Dobro forget that if it is a hung parliament Tim Farron has repeatedly said he would go back into a coalition with Tories.

Don't

Best comment I've heard so far:

Voting LibDem is like going back to your cheating ex-boyfriend.

I think a return to a coalition, even with the Tories as a part of it would be far preferable to another 5 years of Theresa May with the wreking ball.

As someone who hates the Tories ideology I think it's about damage limitation at this point. Labour won't get a majority. So what other hope is there except a coalition? The libdems have faced quite unfair criticism imo. They did temper the Tories last time.

I'm definitely voting LibDem. They're the only ones that have committed to getting rid of SATs and they are the only ones that will take us back into Europe.

I'm counting on Emmanuel Macron to push reform of the EU. I think everyone wants it reformed to be less federal and more a collection of friendly countries, and we need to be in to be part of the reforms.

French MNers we need your help!

I'm voting Lib Dem, although I did prefer Clegg to Farron.

I liked Clegg too HairyToity. I'd be pleased to see him back as leader, and Danny Alexander too. It was such a shame that they lost their place because of losing the tuition fees battle.

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garybainbridge.com/2017/05/05/i-told-you-so-are-you-going-to-listen-to-me-now-spoiler-no/

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Check out this site. It's a really great way of getting you to focus on which policies you agree with rather than being swayed by which party it is. It's great

Oh how do I make a link clicky?

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www.tactical2017.com/
Is a really helpful website to check which is the best way for your vote to make a difference.

www.tactical2017.com/ helps you to vote for the best partty to change government.

Very helpful user. Apparently I need to vote for Labour or the Libdems to stop the Tories getting in. Wish I had thought of that.

Oh, blimey, ThroughThickAndThin01 :D It is usually more helpful than that! Sorry... You're obviously in a swinging area!

I haven't got to time to read the full thread - only up to Page 2 - but has anyone admitted to voting Conservative yet?
I don't know how they managed to win the last election, as everyone hates them so much!

I've heard it said cathf that mn is very left wing. Although I did raise someone's heckles yesterday by asking about the effectiveness of tactical voting. Wasn't quite expecting one of the vitriolic responses I got, but I reminded myself that this is AIBU after all.