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Who to vote for in General Election?

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Pariswhenitdrizzles · 18/04/2017 12:20

Aargh.

Would normally vote for Lib Dems (feel like I should apologise for this!), and voted for them in the last two elections. In an ideal world, I'd vote for them or Labour, but I'm not keen on Jeremy Corbyn's (or Tim Farron's) leadership. Really don't want to vote Conservative.

Wondering perhaps about voting for the Women's Equality Party? They seem pretty good, but are still quite a small party.

What does everyone else think?

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Pariswhenitdrizzles · 19/04/2017 23:01

Just had a look on the Daily Mail (sorry) and their 'exclusive' is that TM is planning a v hard Brexit.

Who to vote for in General Election?
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Angryangryyoungwoman · 19/04/2017 23:06

Vote labour

user1490828037 · 19/04/2017 23:17

Does anyone really believe that a one party state is a good thing? The Tories are predicted to receive a massive majority (something like 40 seats).

A massive majority in seats but that will translate as less than 40% of the vote and less than 30 % of the electorate. So at least 70% of those eligible to vote will NOT back the government.

The current government have only 25% of the electorate's support.

The whole situation is insane.

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Pariswhenitdrizzles · 19/04/2017 23:20

100% agree with you user14 - it's crazy. I have to admit I don't fully understand the ins and outs of AV, but I voted for it in the AV referendum a few years ago and think it would have been a much fairer system than the FTPT system we currently have.

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Pariswhenitdrizzles · 19/04/2017 23:21

Whoops sorry that should be FPTP (as in first past the post)

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BadKnee · 19/04/2017 23:59

I also voted to get rid of the FPTP system - but that was defeated.

I haven't decided yet. I honestly don't know what to do. Mine is likely to be a tightly fought seat too so it will count. I have a lot of research to do.

Frazzled2207 · 20/04/2017 07:35

Personally i'm in favour of coalitions. Forcing at least two sides to work together.
So voting lib dem in the hope of a new coalition.

Frazzled2207 · 20/04/2017 07:38

(Not that I'm in rooting for the tories in anyway but labour haven't got a hope)

ElsieMc · 20/04/2017 08:10

I do not want to see Jeremy Corbyn as Prime Minister. The biggest issue for where I live is that we have a good Labour MP who is one of Jeremy Corbyn's biggest opponents. He wants to stand again, but there is a conflict between the party line and his viewpoint and could he face de-selection? There was only around 800 votes in it in the last election in a traditional working class area reliant on shipbuilding. I am sorry John.

Astonishingly Copeland was lost to the tories in a recent by-election. Again, this will be down to Labour's stance with regard to Sellafield. My dad's family are from this area and my grandmother will be spinning in her grave. Labour have entered a tardis and travelled back to the seventies and I can remember the seventies.

HPFA · 20/04/2017 09:51

I do not want to see Jeremy Corbyn as Prime Minister.

That isn't going to happen. It's only a question of how big the Tory majority will be. But a Tory majority of around 50 or 60 with a new more competent Labour leader in place afterwards could be a basis for progress for 2022. Sounds a lot better than a 200 seat Tory majority and a destroyed Labour party.

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Pariswhenitdrizzles · 20/04/2017 15:05

I really, really hope there'll be a coalition of some kind. Not sure that's very likely though. I'm surprised, as it seems like quite a lot of people don't want to vote for the Tories, but everyone seems to be predicting a decisive Tory victory.

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Batgirlspants · 20/04/2017 15:10

Can't vote labour with Corbyn and am a member. I hope the loss will be bad enough for him to fuck off but not bad enough to decimate the party.

Hopefully a moderate leader can unite the party and expel the momentum Trojan horse.

Not hopeful though.

DorisMcSweeney · 20/04/2017 15:12

I think you vote for whichever candidate stands the best chance of winning who isn't Labour.

ExplodedCloud · 20/04/2017 15:14

Bat really? You'd prefer to vote against your principles just because you don't like Corbyn? I don't know what effect your 'other' vote would have but unless he's your MP I don't understand this.

Batgirlspants · 20/04/2017 15:30

Exploded Corbyn doesn't come close to my principals.

He's a anti Jewish, terrorist apologist. He was utterly disloyal to labour throughout his back bench career and didn't support any policies. I cannot vote for my party with him as head. It's utterly shameful.

We spent all the 80s in the wilderness after Foots loss to Maggie and it took 10 years to get labour electable again. Foot was a decent man too.

I hope he fucks off after the election but he won't because he surrounds himself with admirers and the fame has gone to his massive ego.

At the press conference today the comment about Martha Kierneys top by the thick idiot managing the conference was breath taking in its patronising misogyny.

FireSquirrel · 20/04/2017 15:31

Anyone who would normally vote Labour but is planning to vote Conservative this time just to spite Corbyn needs their head checked. I'm not a raging Corbynite but I don't believe he's incompetent as the media make him out to be (a study by the LSE found that 75% of media articles about Corbyn didn't portay his views accurately) or that he's a worse choice than Theresa May.

Corbyn isn't perfect but he's consistently stood up for the NHS, for those on benefits or zero hour contracts, for the disabled, etc. I can't understand how anyone in their right mind would vote for more Tory cuts, even those who are fortunate enough not to be disabled, vulnerable or reliant on benefits must have friends or family who are.

The (largely Tory tun, right wing) media want you to believe he's incompetent and unelectable because they don't want you to vote for him, they've done everything they can to discredit him, but if you listen to what he actually says and believes rather than what the papers tell you he believes, he makes a lot of sense. Remember, opinion polls are a tool for influencing public opinion, not measuring it ;)

Batgirlspants · 20/04/2017 15:40

Sorry who is the you exactly fire

Please don't start telling us we are all so stupid we are brainwashed by the right wing press it's just fucking boring.

Of course he's fucking incompetent he couldn't unite his own party because he only communicated to his supporters.

Glad you can airbrush his anti semetic views and his support for terrorists. I can't.

Please pop over to chat and see the link regarding the journalist and her top. Says it all really.

ExplodedCloud · 20/04/2017 15:42

It's not about Corbyn though. I do have a different view of him to you but agree with the mad comment on Martha Kearney's top Grin
I understand you don't like him. But the Labour Party is still broadly the same animal. We are still the membership. I held my nose and voted Labour after we went into Iraq (Yes I marched) because the alternative didn't bear thinking about. I don't see Tories tearing themselves apart over a leader who was the only one left standing. A handful of people chose TM. Why can't we accept the leader of our party? I'd vote Labour if Owen Smith had won. I'm voting for the Labour Party.

ExplodedCloud · 20/04/2017 15:43

*agree with you about the mad comment

misspriggy · 20/04/2017 15:44

UKIP normally. Conservative this time

Batgirlspants · 20/04/2017 15:44

I would vote for any of the other candidates Exploded but it is about Corbyn. He doesn't listen to any advice or views and surrounds himself with his cronies.

That's a dangerous man to lead the country.

restingbf · 20/04/2017 15:46

Voting Labour. My family and people close to me are suffering due to tory austerity. I could never vote for a party who is responsible for so many deaths due to the bedroom tax and disability cuts.

ExplodedCloud · 20/04/2017 15:50

I disagree he's more dangerous than David Cameron was. Than Theresa May is.
I realise there's a whole thread about this though. But I would urge you not to vote against the Labour Party if your vote counts.

FireSquirrel · 20/04/2017 15:52

I'd be interested to know what he personally has said or done that could be called antisemitic, given that I'm Jewish myself and don't consider him to be so. Interestingly, most of those who berate him for his supposed antisemitism aren't Jewish themselves. ;)

As for being a terrorist sympathiser, has everyone forgotten Thatcher's open support for Pinochet who she called 'a true friend'? What Corbyn has repeatedly said is that he doesn't condone the actions of terrorists but that without some sort of open dialogue a peace process can never be effected. Of course we could just carry on bombing the shit out of everyone whilst simultaneously selling them weapons, that's worked well for us so far.

Dadstheworld · 20/04/2017 15:54

Voting Tory this time round. Momentum is a cult and Jezzers ideology is dangerous.

Hopefully Labour recover post election to be a credible opposition under new leadership.