To think Yes, The Beatles were brilliant, but ffs get over it

[DonaldStott]

Yes. I love The Beatles. They were amazing. There music has stood the test of time.

My mum is from Liverpool. I live near Liverpool. The Beatles are ingrained in my growing up. What did John Hannah say on Sliding Doors - The should be called The Featuls.

Blah blah blah.

This incessant celebrating EVERY anniversary of EVERYTHING they have EVER done needs to stop.

Now it's 50 years since Sgt Pepper album.

We've had the anniversary of the first time they played at the Cavern, the anniversary of john lennons death, the anniversary of the first time ringo farted, the anniversary of the release of white revolver, the anniversary of the day they returned to play in the cavern, the anniversary of the release of hard days night.........It's endless.

Am I being a misbag, or is it ridiculous? I will state again, I am aware of their cultural influence and love their music.

*Under informed then aren't you.

Cause it clearly shows that you have no idea about what went on during their writing or recording process, or about how well regarded they are by other musicians of the time, or about how they started to shape the music industry and changed the way albums were recorded, allowing other artists to take advantage of this.

All of this is well documented, but you have your opinion*

This is all corroborating my earlier point. This all seems like a massive overreaction to a difference in musical tastes

Throwing around insults because someone dares to not like the Beatles? All a little silly.

Ah but you didn't say its a difference in taste.

You said over rated boy band, which just isn't accurate.

The Beatles were innovative and energetic, and their legacy of songs is excellent. So what if there is now tourism attached? Good for Liverpool if it helps their economy. It's the same for lots of things from the past, often from much further back in history. Stratford for Shakespeare, Wiltshire for Stonehenge, Stoke for the potteries, Edinburgh for the castle, etc.

You may not like their music but their influence and how they changed popular music can't be denied

I can't think of many artists and bands who haven't been influenced by them

Their songwriting and music is fantastic with a few ok and dire ones thrown in

Oh my god - YANBU OP.

First and foremost and if greater concern - why the hell is there a statue of KEN DODD in the middle of Lime St station?

Get over the freekin Beatles already! Everybody else has.

Yes we have been to the Cavern (and kept on walking)

Yes we're all amazed and in awe of "Liverpool One" - as much as we are by any other shopping centre

And finally, why do we need to be repeatedly told that there are not one, but two tunnels under the Mersey. There are flaming tunnels everywhere!

I agree Enthusaism

I think it's fine to like Oasis more than the Beatles, but you have to acknowledge that without the Beatles there would have been no Oasis.

Not acknowledging their influence is unfair, IMO. Also, to take one period of their music that you don't like (eg the jangly stuff) is to deny the way they developed and innovated

I think that sheer repetition has dulled them though. And also if (like me) you rail against being told what to like then you'll get a bit sick of them

The use of orchestra wasn't their idea, it was one of their producers or something.
The use of 4 and 8 track was used before they did. I fact emi was way behind the use of some technology that other studios were using.
In 1967 they started using direct input. Even claims were made about them being the first, basically trying to rewrite history as direct input had been used since the early 60's in America.
Audio feedback was used before them. They were just the first to use it in rock.
Artificial double tracking (adt) created by someone else.
Sampling was used from the 1940's in music.

And also if (like me) you rail against being told what to like then you'll get a bit sick of them

This totally.

I would never dream of trying to force someone to like music I liked other than a "you might like this".

nonamesleft their producer was often called The Fifth Beatle, and they gladly gave credit to George Martin where credit was due. Also, tape loops were used in classical music from 1940s onwards but not in pop music until Tomorrow Never Knows.

""why the hell is there a statue of KEN DODD in the middle of Lime St station? ""

Because he is a lifelong hard working entertainer (constantly suitable for families). It got as risky as him using the term 'tickling stick'.

He does a lot of charity work, even if he doesn't always pay tax, because if he did pay tax, those that need it, don't get it, anyway.

He put Knotty Ash on the map (where I grew up, btw) and he's a lovely fella.

Likewise, you might think Cilla was overrated, but she put the hours in to get where she got to.

My mum is OBSESSED so I've heard every song, album, interview ... Argh! Some stuff is ok/mediocre some is good some is awful.

There's huge mythology around them that the fans repeat and buy into.

Personally I prefer (from that era) the who, the kinks, tamla Motown, the mamas & the papas, Simon & garfunkel, Joni Mitchell and CCR.

"We won't be listening to one direction in 20 years time" this reminded me of my mother saying same to me about a singer/songwriter/musician I liked. At the time he was in a 'boyband' (although only 2 boys in it). Still listening to him 30 years later who? George Michael.

My dad worked with all of them at different points in his career - according to him, the only alright one was George Harrison. Apparently he never cared for the fame, unlike the other 3, and only wanted to play music and be left to get on with it.

Worst one was John Lennon. For someone linked to peace and love, my dad says he had the worst violent temper he's ever seen.

There are basically two categories of post here:

(A) 'The Beatles are shit/I hate them' or 'I love The Beatles, they're great' = opinion.

(B) 'The Beatles are perhaps the most influential popular musicians of all time' = fact.

There's no point arguing about (A), it's just a difference in taste. (B) is incontrovertible.

Yea John was known for his temper.

I've met George and ringo they were lovely polite, quiet people.

Graphista

I love Listen Without Prejudice. Such a great album. He had an amazing control of his voice

I like them. More now that DS1's topic at school has covered the 60's and he's discovered the huge array of 60's music; not a day goes by without The Beatles, The Kinks, The Sones, The Who and The Move being blasted out of his room.

When I was younger I discovered the one that goes "blackbird singing in the dead of night" and played it over and over til my Dad's ears bled. My Grandad had it at his funeral and it is beautiful.

I don't think they were any better than any other manufactured boy band tbh.
I also think they ruined music and added nothing, but that's just my opinion and view.

I don't think they were any better than any other manufactured boy band tbh

They weren't in any sense a manufactured boy band.

Yoko
No idea where you facts came from but please enlighten us to how they are the most influential popular musicians ever.

What about all the classical composers who had hundreds following them, the jazz musicians, the country and western, folk pop stars.

Popular music existed for as long as music has because it was all popular at some time.

You can say "They're not all that" now. Put an early Beatles track against some chart throwaway like Clean Bandit, and the Beatles will sound like a nursery rhyme, but CB or whoever else have had the benefit of 50 years of ever evolving music to borrow from and always improving technology to take advantage of (not saying CB are the pinnacle of modern music by the way!)

At the time though, the Beatles were brilliant. But no, we don't need to celebrate each and every anniversary.

It's interesting how the sound of the Beatles might sound a bit tired and dated to many people now. But the point is that at the time, no-one had heard anything quite like it. They were new and fresh, and different in style to the Everly Brothers, Lonnie Donegan, Cliff and the Shadows, Elvis, Doris Day, etc. In 1964 they led what became known as the "British Invasion" when UK rock, pop and other aspects of British culture became popular in the US.

Id rather listen to Clean Bandit though. They are a very talented bunch.

"The Long And Winding Road"

The long and winding road, that leads, to your door
Will never disappear, I've seen that road before
It always leads me here, lead me to your door
The wild and windy night, that the rain, washed away
Has left a pool of tears, crying for the day
Why leave me standing here, let me know the way

Many times I've been alone, and many times I've cried
Any way you'll never know, the many ways I've tried
And still they lead me back, to the long winding road
You left me standing here a long long time ago
Don't leave me waiting here, lead me to your door

But still they lead me back to the long winding road
You left me standing here, a long long time ago
Don't keep me waiting here (Don't keep me wait), lead me to your door
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

The thing about The Beatles is: they were OK. That's all. I don't mind them but they are almost never the music I'd first choose on any occasion. Massively prefer The Stones for variety and memorable tunes. I never got the hysteria. Yes, they are quite good. But that's all.