Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Should we be Prepping in case there's WW3?

313 replies

brickinitIam · 07/04/2017 15:55

It wouldn't hurt to get a few extra food supplies in (of the non perishable sort). Would it?
Or is it being ott.

I bet the shops love people like me Hmm

OP posts:
Lweji · 08/04/2017 14:31

Bottle top gathering is supposed to be for a special recycling for charity, I think.

PortiaCastis · 08/04/2017 14:32

I think I'd rather not survive
www.nucleardarkness.org/nuclear/effectsofnuclearweapons/

derxa · 08/04/2017 14:43

I'd have to get my shepherdess round with her shotgun and dogs.We'd have to guard the sheep night and day. I'd have to learn the arts of butchery though.

AverysillyoldHector · 08/04/2017 14:49

I'm currently eyeing up our cat's rather chunky thighs and wondering whether I could stop being a vegetarian should the need arise.....

ZebraOwl · 08/04/2017 14:54

TenementFunster
Sadly everyone now knows about the WWII tactic of "oh yeah, the bombs are TOTALLY overshooting London". Well that & all the advanced technology missile-guiding whatnots. Can one flag down a nuclear bomb? TBF, anyone who's visited Croydon will probably aim for that on aesthetic principles alone, which improves things for those of us on the right side of the Thames...

CakesAreBiscuitsToo
Just a small bomb, someone going for the retro nuclear blast? Basically if someone goes a bit apocalyptically!hipster on us? In which case, where do you think they'd target...?

cuirderussie
My granny was just in London back from a trip home to Belfast when the bombing raid that took out St Paul's started. She was on a bus. I don't think any bus before or since has taken quite such a diversion, the driver apparently working on the basis that it was better to be a moving target...
If you don't make a joke of it though, you risk letting it get too much in your head. You've no power (unless, y'know, you're Putin hanging about here for the craic) to do anything about it so why be making yourself miserable?

The government knew in the 1950s & 1960s when sections of the population could be considered "accidental preppers" (ie had traditional skills & knowledge; had food stores as preserved own food/lived in remote areas where food was delivered to last for months at a time over winter; had lived through WWII; & were ready to follow the advice provided about what to do in the event of a nuclear attack) that people weren't going to survive a nuclear attack if they were caught in it. Unless your prepping includes a full-on fallout shelter & supplies for years, you're stuffed. And what you'd be coming out into doesn't really bear thinking about.

Prep for floods & power-cuts & whatever weather phenomena might happen near you. Everyone should know how to do basic first aid & have up-to-date supplies available. Prep for being too ill to get to the shops for a few days if you can afford & have space for tinned & frozen food.

I'm a Brownie Leader. Be Prepared is sort of my thing. But that means I'm the one with a stitch kit when someone's ribbons come off their pointe shoes/I always have tissues & wet wipes/I check the weather before I go out & dress appropriately/I carry my medication on me + a copy of my prescription + a copy of key parts of my medical history (like treatment teams/allergies/aspects of conditions). Definitely doesn't mean letting my life be determined-defined by fears about the future.

hesterton · 08/04/2017 15:26

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

CakesAreBiscuitsToo · 08/04/2017 16:54

😂 ZebraOwl

That made me laugh - yes it would be the hipster apocalypse I was judging the impact of there - just a wee retro bomb for old times sake.

Honestly I never thought I'd find myself detonating bombs on my home city to see if I was in the decimation zone and I hadn't scrollled down far enough to notice that they have "currently stocked bombs" as an option.

I'm sure fear used to be so much more fun when we had to just imagine the horror rather than actually be able to simulate it! I'd have thought that even a wee retro bomb would take out even the outliers in Zone 5. How wrong I was.

BeyondUser24601 · 08/04/2017 16:59

I found that page really reassuring anxiety wise Grin

For instance, I know an area that was targeted locally in ww2 so tried there - the impact barely reached the city centre, never mind where I am :)

peaceout · 08/04/2017 17:34

We'd have to guard the sheep night and day. I'd have to learn the arts of butchery though
wouldnt any animal flesh soon be toxic due to the radiation?
ditto plants

Tenementfunster · 08/04/2017 17:34

Those slackers in nuclear technology have barely got anything going on that will more than make my washing a bit singed in zone 5
I blame Reagan and Gorbachev.

derxa · 08/04/2017 17:46

wouldnt any animal flesh soon be toxic due to the radiation?
ditto plants
God knows Grin We'd probably be best stocking up on cyanide pills

Madeyemoodysmum · 08/04/2017 17:54

Live too near London to survive. Rather be vapour

Lweji · 08/04/2017 17:55

wouldnt any animal flesh soon be toxic due to the radiation? ditto plants

Considering the levels of radiation our bodies would be exposed to, eating radioactive food would be the least of our worries.

Tobolsk · 08/04/2017 17:59

derxa

Nearly all modern nuclear weapons are airburst. They detonate in the sky above the target. It causes more damage but much much less radiation.

In the past animals would have become contaminated over time. In a modern scenario it won't be such a big issue

Tobolsk · 08/04/2017 18:00

On the nuke map website I shared down post you can switch between airburst and surface to see the difference

makeourfuture · 08/04/2017 18:30

It causes more damage but much much less radiation.

This is my understanding. Aside from London and a few other places in the UK most would survive quite intact/healthy.

I would think some form of marshal law would be put in place immediately...curfews....travel bans. But as food stocks quickly run down and general disorder increases anyplace outside of city centres and logistic hubs would be very dangerous. Petrol, electricity and heating/cooking gas would not last long at all. Home raiding by gangs would commence rapidly.

The hope, as mentioned above, is that communities would band together and perhaps form security committees who could self police.

I would think that if a government could re-establish some sort of hope then people would probably be surprisingly resilient. But if too much time wore on with chaos....it would degenerate into an awful savagery.

CakesAreBiscuitsToo · 08/04/2017 18:37

Madeyemoodysmum
Sadly, living near to London won't cut it for immediate annihilation- You have to be in or near central London. It's most depressing considering how much we pay for housing - we should at least be afforded the courtesy of instant decimation in the event of nuclear attack!

Lweji · 08/04/2017 18:42

I think you're forgetting the radiation clouds that would circle the globe several times. From thousands of bombs.

CakesAreBiscuitsToo · 08/04/2017 18:47

Me, Lweji?

Yes, I am focused on a 1 bomb scenario I guess. As the detonator didn't allow for an actual world war.

I guess still it's reassuring that London is on the top target list.

Knowing my luck I'd be somewhere else when the bomb hit anyway!

pennypickle · 08/04/2017 18:49

My worst fear is not being killed outright in a direct nuclear attack, as we are outside the range of a nuclear attack on London. Anyways I don't think (hope!) we need to involve ourselves in this discussion. I cannot see Russia or America pressing the nuclear button. They both have too much to lose.

America and Russia will, undoubtedly, come to blows. Neither will utilise nuclear weapons. It will be the poor civilians of the Middle East that will bear the brunt again :(

SmileEachDay · 08/04/2017 18:52

Lweji

Brilliant! Radioactivity just as bad inside as out? I'm adding that to my list of reasons to make the kids go out every day.

currently the list is just "because you're doing my head in talking about Lego

I think a British attitude is what's called for. Ignore it and carry on as usual. I might make one of those annoying memes:

Keep Calm
And
Ignore the radiation sickness

PoochSmooch · 08/04/2017 19:02

I can't decide if this thread is fascinating, hilarious, worrying or some godforsaken spawn of all three Grin

I am relying on my thorough and repeated readings of Clan of the Cave Bear to see me right in terms of flint knapping, medicinal plant gathering, and making shoes out of rabbits.

I think I might be inadvertenly well prepared though. I have a generator, for when power barfs out. I live in a place where the electricity supply is...quirky. I think I can build on that. And I have three freezers full of dog food and last year's fig harvest, which should give me a few weeks of nourishment so I can gloat over the less prepared while I gear up for a really unpleasant death by shitting from all the figs Grin

I do worry that I'm not ruthless enough though. Like Katniss says, nobody decent ever wins the games...

MelonDrops · 08/04/2017 19:33

And I have three freezers full of dog food

I have a beagle, a labrador and St. Bernards if they're alive and you have food, they will arrive at your doorstep at some point in this post apocolyptic world Grin they won't give two stuffs about me, just food and I can imagine them sniffing it out however far it is! GrinGrin

Lweji · 08/04/2017 19:38

I may need to get rid of the cat if supplies run over. He loves his food and will probably kill me in my sleep if he's not fed properly.

PoochSmooch · 08/04/2017 19:48

melon, like I'm going to tell you so when the apocalypse hits your dogs can sniff it out and eat it, then eat me Grin

I'm not in the UK, but if you promise to sling some brandy in a barrel round the St Bernard's neck, I might give you some hints to start the search...