To think life's pleasure dwindles as you get older?

[Melaniaspilatesinstructor]

Once you're 30 and you start realising that the people you love are going to get ill and die, the food you eat and have been given depends on animal cruelty to exist.
People you love, hurt each other or want to say negative things about each other to you.
It's so hard to stay afloat financially and so easy to get into debt.
Clothes we wear are usually due to someone in the world being exploited, also iPhones.

So we give up meat, dairy, gossip (and allowing people to gossip to us) give up spending money we don't have (which means no holidays, family visiting, outings)

Even having babies (which is beautiful and sweet and wonderful) is scary because they depend so entirely on us being functional and we constantly worry about them.

We give up sugar to lower our cancer risk knowing that lots of people get it anyway.
When I see elderly people struggling with loneliness it makes me feel so sad especially my own grandmother who has lost my mother and her husband, now her sight and her mobility to an extent.
It's like life puts things into perspective and all that's important is loving others but all the while knowing you might lose them at any time and giving up comforts that got you through.

Life's just less enjoyable with all this ^^^ in mind.

AIBU? Or have some of you managed to hold all this and still feel happy?

User, I didn't say I don't give a toss about it - I'm concerned about how I'll afford rent in retirement (and therefore whether I'll actually get to retire at all) and lots of other things financially, but I'm not angry about it and even I were, I certainly wouldn't be directing that anger at the people who haven't faced the same hardship.

I just think that you can't know what other people are going through, and it's a bit unfair to tar everyone with the same brush. I've been a single parent on benefits following domestic violence and was dirt poor, so I do appreciate how hard it is to really struggle financially and how it can cause depression and a perception that the future is very bleak indeed. However, if I'd blamed the economy and everyone around me and had spent most of my energy on being angry at the world, I'm not sure I would have had the impetus to get myself out of the rut I was in and change my life for the better.

I'm not judging anyone else's situation and fully appreciate that lots of people don't have any say in the hardships they face (like Dahliaaa ) - I just think the anger and accusations aren't helpful to anyone.

Well said oliversmumsarmy.

Young people now are lazy, massively entitled and won't wait for anything. Or did I generalise a little bit there?

"I'm not bitter but I believe strongly in an equitable society, and yes I play my small part in trying to bring that about."

By moaning about the selfishness of the over 50s?

Nope. Life is definitely better now I'm in my 30s. I'm finally giving less of a fuck about things that don't matter, and appreciating the simple things.

Oh and I'm a single mum, skinter than I've ever been, but I feel (mostly) happy.

argy demographically speaking, not in terms of individuals, the over all collective political actions of the over fifties in this country have been incredibly selfish in recent years. If my pointing that out offends you, I won't apologise. And there's absolutely no evidence to suggest younger people are lazy, so it's not in any way comparable. If you have an evidence based counter argument lets hear it. Anything else is just goadyfuckery.

the over all collective political actions of the over fifties in this country have been incredibly selfish in recent years

Can you elaborate on what you mean? What collective actions?

I've already said this is the demographic that overwhelmingly voted for Brexit & two tory governments. I'll add in cashing in on post war social housing via right to buy, which was extremely myopic, and left the next generation at the mercy of buy to let landlords & turning a blind eye to the introduction of university tuition fees under new Labour. Prove me wrong.

People were given a vote and they used it how they wanted to, for the referendum and the elections. I'm sure the percentage of people who cast their vote on the basis it will screw over others was very, very small. People have all sorts of reasons for voting the way they do and that's their private decision. It's their vote.

And are you saying that it's the fault of the people who were given the option of buying their social housing who are to blame for the long-term effects of the policy? Should those they just have said 'oh, well I can see this would obviously benefit me and my family now, but I'll decline because there might be someone in the future who might benefit more from my doing so'?

How do you know that the decisions that you make now aren't inadvertently going to screw over the next generation?

I appreciate that you're angry; I just think your anger is misdirected.

Bloody hell. I'm in my mid forties and feel my life is about to start. New relationship and looking forward to loads of adventures ahead, travelling all sorts. Empty nest nearly and loving it!

"If you have an evidence based counter argument lets hear it."

You're being ridiculous.

How's that?

Pretty crap, argy, It shows you have nothing further to contribute to the discussion and you're here to goad rather than discuss.

longines it doesn't really matter why people do selfish, stupid things. The news was full of the likely negative consequences of Brexit on the economy and younger people, but the demographic concerned went ahead and fucked it up anyway. It was the same with right to buy, but anyone who objected was dismissed as a loony lefty. And lo and behold, they were spot on. Intentions aside, the effects are plain to see.

So what we have is if you are under 40 then your life is crap. You are never going to afford to do anything. You are never going to buy a house and you will be working till you drop dead.

If life is going to be so crap then what are you going to do about it or is one of your lifes little pleasures moaning

My life on paper looked bleak. Mentally ill mother who would try to kill me on occasion and other shit that should have had me in a padded cell. Instead I knew what I wanted and went for it.

You deal with what life throws at you. If you just want to moan and stamp your feet and say its not fair then go ahead but it is not going to get you any where