to wonder why the fuss about Easter and the national trust?

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Theresa May has been quoted as being "furious" about the national trust removing easter from their egg hunts. Because she's the daughter of a vicar and a NT member

Now I had a look at the national trust poster and it clearly says Easter in big letters. They've just called the activities "egg hunts" but it's very clear it's happening at Easter.

AIBU to think she's massively over reacting over a non issue and might well be reminded that Easter was originally a pagan festival

Sheepy - yes I've always wondered what chocolate eggs have in common with the Easter Story.
Perhaps Teresa can tell us.

I remember last year some ranty fb post about how Cadbury's had banned the word Easter from their products went viral. A cursory glance at their products would have shown this was untrue but people would rather be outraged than check facts.

I can well believe this decision has more to do with Kraft than the NT. they brought out Cadburys in order to better expand into emerging markets such as India where Cadburys had a much stronger presence. They don't give a stuff about Britain or decent chocolate. Easter is neither here nor there to them. NT are clearly still using the word Easter although the daily telegraph edited it to make it look like they weren't.

I'm angry at Kraft and the Daily Telegraph and TM because she knows what she is doing is getting a certain brand of conservative frothing at the mouth in a delighted rage about this nonsense.

A cursory glance at their products would have shown this was untrue but people would rather be outraged than check facts

The world 2017. And lies spread quickly. People believe what they want to believe in spite of actual evidence.

batteriesallgone - the link is that the hollow egg represents the empty tomb.

I am a Christian and sure I would like the world to know and remember what we consider the most amazing event in our history BUT it isn't the NT's responsibility or Cadbury's for that matter to be informing people of the true meaning of the Christian festival.

The other reality is that the Church calendar chose to put the celebrations of Jesus' death and resurrection on a pagan festival that celebrated spring and new life so there is bound to be confusion/reason for people who don't believe in Jesus to be thinking about other things.

I will be taking my children on the NT egg hunt as it is a fun holiday activity that will have no impact on our family celebrating Jesus.

I think Easter should definitely be mentioned - political correctness gone mad otherwise .....

I have always assumed the eggs stand for birth/ re-birth/ new life. Not if you eat them though, I suppose!

Very much smacks of 'yes, nobody knows what they're doing with Brexit... OH MY GOD, LOOK OVER THERE! They're trying to steal your traditions!'

Cross posted with Freedom Mummy, she sounds like she knows more about it than me!

Theresa May is a PITA. She has more important things to worry about like trying not to fuck up our country too much.

Is this the same Theresa May who refused to comment on "legs-it"?
Yes, and who also refused to condemn our judiciary being called enemies of the people, and Michael Howard's threats to Spain of gunboat diplomacy.

I guess she felt the need to remind us she's a vicar's daughter when she's being criticised this week for her very Christian acts of taking money of widowed single parents and the disabled.

Cam Theresa please concentrate on what's currently, crucially important in this country....bloody harking on about Easter Egg hunts ffs!!!!!!!!

The Archbishop of York has said it's a disservice to Cadbury's Quaker roots but doesn't seem to realise that Quakers traditionally don't celebrate Easter anyway (believing no day is more holy than any other)
Also as a modern day Quaker we tend to care far more about Cadburys not paying their fair share of tax and Theresa May supporting weapons sales in Saudi as an affront to those values than not using the word Easter
Yes agree with previous posters it's all a distraction

Ooh Lord you might want to put those on this thread I've just started.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2895146-Things-Theresa-May-could-have-condemned-instead-of-Egg-Hunts?

Agree that it's just heavy handed branding.

• Cadbury's deal with the NT obviously includes this wording, I suspect that research shows that a Cadbury's Egg Hunt implies that people are searching for the eggs because they are Cadbury's.

• TM has backed this horse as she believes that her support will come from middle England, who can get impassioned about such things. Yay, Theresa, defending British values like Easter and Gibraltar.

I think Easter should definitely be mentioned - political correctness gone mad otherwise .....
Except it has been mentioned, very prominently on the National Trust's advertising. Our Daily Mail PM is either stupid or deliberately trying to whip people into a frenzy.

To be hones, I don't associate the Jesus stories with the eggs, Oester, fertility, new life, etc that Easter is all about.
The upset seems bonkers to me.

Nice bit of free advertising for Cadburys.

and the NT.

... but possibly not the Archbis of wherever who I think has it wrong on the Quaker/Easter thing.

She was asked directly about it, she said she "didn't know what they were thinking" but didn't seem to be seeking it out as something to make a fuss about.

And yes, in English we're unusual in that the word we use for Easter doesn't come from a variation of Passover or Ressurection Day. We're on our own with this lingistic oddness !

Easter and eggs were taken from pagan festivals of spring and rebirth by the Christian church as a tool to 'convert' those dammedable pagans.

It was no longer an 'egg' it was 'the rock' that was rolled away from the crypt/cave.

Christians should make their minds up do they want eggs associated with them or not? Seems like some do and some dont. You cant have it all ways.

And definately no 'Easter Bunny' in the bible. And the origins of the 'easter Bunny' was in fact a hare but it was changed over time in the USA to a 'cute bunny'.

The egg hunt is just a major marketing ploy by Kraft to bump sales of their ruined chocolate.

I get that Easter is about God saving humanity by sacrificing his only begotten son and far more holy than Christmas - but on that basis egg hunts and the bunny are insulting surely? Ban 'em all! Stations of the Cross, Stabat Mater dolorosa and flagellations for all.

To be fair FreedomMummy - the early church in Rome/middle East probably didn't stop to think about what the pagans in those distant British Isles or Norse Vikings were up to in Spring when they decided the calendar!

It had to be around about now because it says in the bible Jesus was going into Jeruselem for the Passover festival. While the Jewish calendar is different to the Christian one, it's usually roughly the same time.

Pansies - meh, no more insulting that Santa. and chocolate is nice for the end of lent when you want to eat tonnes of crap

Highly recommend the David Sedaris piece 'Jesus Shaves' on this.