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to think you "PTA mummies" will love this and it was definitely written by a MN-etter

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ChickenVindaloo2 · 31/03/2017 21:09

Facebook post: (disclaimer - I am neither a mother nor a PTA member!). "Eleventy billion" --> written by one of us MN lot!
Here goes...

So, shall we talk about the dreaded ‘PTA Mummies’? God, they’re annoying bitches, aren’t they, with their endless raffle tickets, and coffee mornings, and Race Nights, and Wine and Cheese Nights.

Actually, the ‘Let’s Kick The PTA Mummies’ thing gets right on this Mummy’s tits. They’re easy targets, aren’t they, the PTA Mummies? Bossy, smug, AND they think they’re important just because they are allowed in the staffroom sometimes. Mummy used to think the same about them, until she foolishly (drunkenly) agreed to join the PTA, and then somehow ended up spending two years as the PTA Chair, until her soul was crushed and all faith in humanity sucked out of her. So this is what it’s really like being a PTA Mummy versus the myths about the Tyrant Queen Of The Raffle Tickets:

Yes, the PTA mummies are quite pally with some of the teachers. After Mrs Harrison and the PTA Mummies have had to minister to little Olly Johnson at the school fete because his mummy thinks PTA events basically only exist to provide her with cheap childcare at the weekends, so she dropped him off clutching a fiver and she swanned off to the gym, finally returning half an hour after the fete finished, by which time Olly had spent the lot on the tuckshop and was puking the rainbow, a certain solidarity is born. And yes, the PTA Mummies are a tiny bit smug about being allowed into the staffroom sometimes, which let’s face it, was like a portal to another world when you were at school, so it is quite exciting to be allowed in and it is literally the ONLY perk of being on the PTA, even if it turns out to be a bit shit really and very beige, with uncomfortable chairs and unflattering lighting and a lingering scent of bad coffee and broken dreams.

The PTA Mummies send eleventy billion passive aggressive emails. Yes. Yes, they do. They send eleventy billion emails because they are desperately trying to persuade someone, anyone, to volunteer at the event they are organising to raise funds for the school- funds to pay for school trips, and computers, and equipment, and books, and all the other things the school needs, but can’t afford with their limited budget. School trips, computers, equipment and books that everybody’s children benefit from, not just the PTA Mummies’ children. And the emails ARE quite passive aggressive, it’s true, because it is frowned upon to send emails saying “FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WILL SOME OF YOU LAZY FUCKERS STEP UP AND OFFER TO HELP” because they’re good, the PTA Mummies, they have yards of bunting and staple guns and they’re not afraid to use them, and they’re absolute whizzes at transforming a municipal hall into Santa’s Grotto or a cocktail bar using only fairy lights and sellotape, but they cannot run an event for 100 people with only three volunteers, and believe you me, they have heard ALL the excuses about why other parents can’t possibly help, including this Mummy’s personal favourite of “I can’t be expected to spare the time to help with that, I have TWO CHILDREN, you know!” If every parent in every school volunteered to help at one event a year, which probably would actually involve no more than two or three hours of their time A YEAR, then the PTA Mummies would probably send a lot fewer emails, and the emails they did send would be much happier.

Oh, and they’re a bit bloody perfect too, aren’t they, the PTA Mummies? Rocking up at the school barbecue with their vats of homemade houmous, or boxes and boxes of cakes at the coffee mornings? Really, who are they trying to show off to? Or, maybe it’s because all the vegetarians moaned at last year’s barbecue about being fobbed off with boring veggie burgers again, and so the PTA Mummies tried to come up with a more interesting alternative, but houmous is expensive and every event is run on a shoestring, and so they found a cheap recipe to make your own houmous, but they did it last night when they were pissed and now their whole kitchen is sprayed with houmous and they are hungover to fuck and will be chipping houmous off the ceiling for months because actually, they’re only human, and as they smile brightly at you, all they can think of is a medicinal pork pie.

And remember why they’re trying to flog the raffle tickets and pushing the coffee mornings and asking for tombola prizes- it’s for your kids. Remember as well that most people these days work at least part time, if not full time, and these dreadful PTA Mummies are trying to fit the fundraising for the school in around their real jobs and families. Their own children wander abandoned round the PTA events- their mums never see them win the Hook-A-Duck or the Beat the Goalie, because their mums are in the kitchen washing up 200 tea cups, and lying to the treasurer that absolutely they have done a risk assessment, and answering everybody’s questions about what needs done next and what goes where and who’s doing what, and thinking that if they ever, EVER see another fucking raffle ticket again in their life, they will go stark staring mad!

So, PTA Mummies- you are absolute fucking superstars. You help keep the schools running and provide a better education for everyone’s kids. So buy their raffle tickets, and give them a nod of recognition for all they do, along with all the other people who volunteer in schools in other ways. You are all awesome, and fuck anyone who says otherwise. You. Are. Legends. Xxxx

OP posts:
Rainydayspending · 01/04/2017 09:06

Hmm they really are a clique. Every term I give my contact details to offer help. Every term noone contacts me. Every term the same bunch of women moan it looks as though it's down to them AGAIN.
I've taken to loudly pointing out I never get a contact and forward emails etc. Nothing.
Moany martyr clique. Leaving really soon so I've printed out all of those ignored emails to dend to the governors with a cover letter explaining why I think there's a 'communication' problem within the PTA. Nutters.

Meeep · 01/04/2017 09:14

I am sick of these "hilarious" gin obsessed mums, it's a boring overdone trope.

Stillwishihadabs · 01/04/2017 09:20

I work ft. I have been to multiple PTA meetings, it's the ineffeciency which I cant stand. I started talking about profit margins and return on investment and they all looked horrified. I cant be doing with taking half a day's leave ( our meetings are at 2pm) to discuss an event which might only make as much as i would have got paid for the half day ! So i attend as many events as I can and try to arrive early to help with set up/ stay on to help clear away and put my hand in my pocket inbetween.
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Mumzypopz · 01/04/2017 09:34

I do love threads about PTA's......Lots of anger both sides of the argument. I can only recommend that those people on the PTA who are so angry at others who aren't, stop doing it. It can't be healthy to be so wound up all the time. If you really want more people to help, you have to be more inviting and friendly. Guilt trips never work.

BertrandRussell · 01/04/2017 09:43

it's not "modern helicopter parenting"

It's "modern no money for basics in school never mind extras"

Majorgoodwinschickenbeatstrump · 01/04/2017 09:47

I made it to paragraph two. I don't know anyone in real-life who gets offended by 'PTA Mummies' or gives a fiddler's fuck to be honest. The PTA at my school do a great job.

ApproachingATunnel · 01/04/2017 09:49

I'd hate to be associated with this kind of image of pta parents. It's bitchy, patronising and full of martyrdom. Perhaps if they curbed the bitchiness there would be more volunteers turning up- something to think about perhaps?..

I volunteer if i can. Most of the time i can't because i have a job, 2 kids and zero help as no family around. You call me 'lazy arse' for that? Well fuck off to stand at that fucking stall of yours and shut your gob. I don't care.

VeryButchyRestingFace · 01/04/2017 09:49

They should force any horny/broody teenagers to read that post.

Guaranteed it will make their libido plummet to zero and their ovaries freeze over. 😵

Mumzypopz · 01/04/2017 09:52

I think people only get offended by PTA mummies when the PTA mummies have a go at everyone else. It's a never ending cycle. Person wants to help. Person helps. Person gets angry and obsessed that no one else is helping. Person has a go at everyone else for not doing what she wanted to do in the first place and no-one else did. Everyone else hates person for constantly having a go at them.

Majorgoodwinschickenbeatstrump · 01/04/2017 09:55

Grinverybutchy!! It's writing like this that makes me turn off parenting and I already am one Grinhonestly, these 'bloggers', raise your kids quietly and enjoy them and stop blabbering on about fucking gin every 15 minutes.

Mumzypopz · 01/04/2017 09:57

Going back to the ops post where it says something about not being able to take their kids round the stalls because they are Manning a stall themselves...They are actually quite lucky to be able to go at all. Have they thought about the people who can't go to fairs at all because they are working?! No, thought not. I hate the fair, every year my kids moan because they want to go and I can't take them and it's straight after school.

gamerwidow · 01/04/2017 10:02

I'm chair of the PTA I don't care if people don't want to help I just make sure everything we do can be run by a tiny amount of people. I do care that people then moan that the fund raising activities we do are small and boring because you can't have it both ways.
For what it's worth next year I'm starting up a system which allows people to make cash donations instead of doing other fund raising stuff. I bet my life that I get less then 5% of the school signing up even though everyone says 'why can't we just give x'.

bibbitybobbityyhat · 01/04/2017 10:03

"Too long didn't read. People couldn't be bothered to take the 2 minutes it took to read it."

to the PP who said this earlier ^^, you forgot to add "because it was excrutiatingly badly written drivel"

RainbowsAndUnicorn · 01/04/2017 10:04

I'd be surprised if you even get 5% sadly, most people just say that to avoid doing anything.

TesticlesInTheBlender · 01/04/2017 10:11

We understand that some people can't make it due to work commitments - I book annual leave months in advance so I can be there on the day, but we appreciate that not everyone can do that.

But there are other things that can be done.

HandbagCrab · 01/04/2017 10:12

I'd give you my money and gladly gamer good luck :)

gamerwidow · 01/04/2017 10:22

Thanks handbag...I really hope your kids go to my school Grin

SaudadeObama · 01/04/2017 10:37

I don't get the martyrdom. Luckily my kids school doesn't have a PTA, but their old school did and the head of the PTA was an absolute arrogant bitch. She was out of touch with the majority of the parents and insulted most of them on at least one occasion. The PTA had an overhaul to de-middle-class-mummy-ify it, after that it was fantastic. Loads of people got on board and it really became a PTA. More people came to events as well when Mrs "£5 per person entrance fee" left and people with big families or those on low wages and benefits could actually afford to come to the events. There wasn't room in the staffroom for all the parents that turned up to new meetings, so the meetings moved to the hall. I hope it's still like that.

brasty · 01/04/2017 11:10

It is not true that people would rather just give £20 or £50. They don't. I have tried that.

JigglyTuff · 01/04/2017 11:48

Some people would brasty. I would. HandbagCrab would :)

ThreeLeggedHaggis · 01/04/2017 12:15

Maybe instead of getting defensive and rude, the "PTA mummies" on this thread should listen to people's reasons for "sneering" at the PTA?

Do you not think it's quite telling that people are saying they feel looked down on by you, and your response is to look down on them?

Str4ngedaysindeed · 01/04/2017 12:18

I tried for two years with the bloody pta at my school school. Ran discos, helped at fetes, went to meetings. For some reason my face didn't fit though and i was merely tolerated. It really can be awful 😞

PussCatTheGoldfish · 01/04/2017 12:40

I think it's very funny, and pretty similar to my experience on the PTA.

I avoid the meetings these days if I can but help at all events. A newsletter is produced annually with how much was raised and where the money has gone. (Welly racks, new library books, iPads etc).

It works quite well, but lack of other volunteers can be frustrating.

KitKats28 · 01/04/2017 12:45

Exactly ThreeLeggedHaggis. The people on this thread who are denying that the attitude exists, are proving that it does by the way they are talking down to people.

I am quite happy to believe that every PTA in every school in the country is not like the one at my kids' junior school. However, the PTA that I had personal experience of was run by middle class mothers, and one token father who they all fawned over.

My husband (with his tattoos and piercings) and my friend's husband (a ten year clean addict) tried to get involved. They were told they would need a DBS check, and have to pay for it themselves. This was obviously intended to put them off, as when they said that was fine, the yummies suddenly decided they didn't require their involvement.

Now you can argue all you like and say that PTAs are all wonderful and don't treat people like shit, but ultimately they did, and lost out on two people who were prepared to do pretty much anything to help out.

ArcheryAnnie · 01/04/2017 12:48

Ooooh really? You can't? Let me have a quick think off the top of my head. Full time job and only an hour tops with your children each night plus half a day at the weekend taken up with school stuff like home work, sorting uniform, shoe polishing, lunch making. Shift work. No childcare to attend meetings. Other caring commitments like elderly parents or disabled children. Other commitments like studying or second jobs to put food on the table.

BillSykes I was a working single parent with caring responsibilities for my late mother, who had dementia. I was exhausted, but still pitched in when I could. Most parents are tired and busy. Some parents really, really can't help. But too many just couldn't be arsed, and yet their kids still get to reap the rewards of those that do pitch in.

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