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to think you "PTA mummies" will love this and it was definitely written by a MN-etter

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ChickenVindaloo2 · 31/03/2017 21:09

Facebook post: (disclaimer - I am neither a mother nor a PTA member!). "Eleventy billion" --> written by one of us MN lot!
Here goes...

So, shall we talk about the dreaded ‘PTA Mummies’? God, they’re annoying bitches, aren’t they, with their endless raffle tickets, and coffee mornings, and Race Nights, and Wine and Cheese Nights.

Actually, the ‘Let’s Kick The PTA Mummies’ thing gets right on this Mummy’s tits. They’re easy targets, aren’t they, the PTA Mummies? Bossy, smug, AND they think they’re important just because they are allowed in the staffroom sometimes. Mummy used to think the same about them, until she foolishly (drunkenly) agreed to join the PTA, and then somehow ended up spending two years as the PTA Chair, until her soul was crushed and all faith in humanity sucked out of her. So this is what it’s really like being a PTA Mummy versus the myths about the Tyrant Queen Of The Raffle Tickets:

Yes, the PTA mummies are quite pally with some of the teachers. After Mrs Harrison and the PTA Mummies have had to minister to little Olly Johnson at the school fete because his mummy thinks PTA events basically only exist to provide her with cheap childcare at the weekends, so she dropped him off clutching a fiver and she swanned off to the gym, finally returning half an hour after the fete finished, by which time Olly had spent the lot on the tuckshop and was puking the rainbow, a certain solidarity is born. And yes, the PTA Mummies are a tiny bit smug about being allowed into the staffroom sometimes, which let’s face it, was like a portal to another world when you were at school, so it is quite exciting to be allowed in and it is literally the ONLY perk of being on the PTA, even if it turns out to be a bit shit really and very beige, with uncomfortable chairs and unflattering lighting and a lingering scent of bad coffee and broken dreams.

The PTA Mummies send eleventy billion passive aggressive emails. Yes. Yes, they do. They send eleventy billion emails because they are desperately trying to persuade someone, anyone, to volunteer at the event they are organising to raise funds for the school- funds to pay for school trips, and computers, and equipment, and books, and all the other things the school needs, but can’t afford with their limited budget. School trips, computers, equipment and books that everybody’s children benefit from, not just the PTA Mummies’ children. And the emails ARE quite passive aggressive, it’s true, because it is frowned upon to send emails saying “FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, WILL SOME OF YOU LAZY FUCKERS STEP UP AND OFFER TO HELP” because they’re good, the PTA Mummies, they have yards of bunting and staple guns and they’re not afraid to use them, and they’re absolute whizzes at transforming a municipal hall into Santa’s Grotto or a cocktail bar using only fairy lights and sellotape, but they cannot run an event for 100 people with only three volunteers, and believe you me, they have heard ALL the excuses about why other parents can’t possibly help, including this Mummy’s personal favourite of “I can’t be expected to spare the time to help with that, I have TWO CHILDREN, you know!” If every parent in every school volunteered to help at one event a year, which probably would actually involve no more than two or three hours of their time A YEAR, then the PTA Mummies would probably send a lot fewer emails, and the emails they did send would be much happier.

Oh, and they’re a bit bloody perfect too, aren’t they, the PTA Mummies? Rocking up at the school barbecue with their vats of homemade houmous, or boxes and boxes of cakes at the coffee mornings? Really, who are they trying to show off to? Or, maybe it’s because all the vegetarians moaned at last year’s barbecue about being fobbed off with boring veggie burgers again, and so the PTA Mummies tried to come up with a more interesting alternative, but houmous is expensive and every event is run on a shoestring, and so they found a cheap recipe to make your own houmous, but they did it last night when they were pissed and now their whole kitchen is sprayed with houmous and they are hungover to fuck and will be chipping houmous off the ceiling for months because actually, they’re only human, and as they smile brightly at you, all they can think of is a medicinal pork pie.

And remember why they’re trying to flog the raffle tickets and pushing the coffee mornings and asking for tombola prizes- it’s for your kids. Remember as well that most people these days work at least part time, if not full time, and these dreadful PTA Mummies are trying to fit the fundraising for the school in around their real jobs and families. Their own children wander abandoned round the PTA events- their mums never see them win the Hook-A-Duck or the Beat the Goalie, because their mums are in the kitchen washing up 200 tea cups, and lying to the treasurer that absolutely they have done a risk assessment, and answering everybody’s questions about what needs done next and what goes where and who’s doing what, and thinking that if they ever, EVER see another fucking raffle ticket again in their life, they will go stark staring mad!

So, PTA Mummies- you are absolute fucking superstars. You help keep the schools running and provide a better education for everyone’s kids. So buy their raffle tickets, and give them a nod of recognition for all they do, along with all the other people who volunteer in schools in other ways. You are all awesome, and fuck anyone who says otherwise. You. Are. Legends. Xxxx

OP posts:
TinselTwins · 04/04/2017 19:31

I'm sure your kids benefit from the library books, classroom dictionaries, PE equipment, playground toys and equipment, and subsidised outings

Oh yawn! I've already answered all of that

  • no, our trips are not substidised but mainly because the PTA don't get a say in them! Our school choses local trips or brings in local companies so trips are never more than £5 per head but more usually around £3, and it's kept sensible enough that enough can pay to cover those that don't. In our local church school the PTA raises money for and has a say in the trips and they are stupidly far away and expensive/over ambitious. So end up needing heavy subsidisation.

Our teachers use an outside company that is allowed a selling stall at school and for every book bought they donate one to the school library. This is NOT a PTA thing, they only like DIY and hate any suggestion of outside companies even if they make more sense for the particular event. If it's not someone's brother or SIL they don't get in (same shit over-priced DJ every year for this reason!)

Playground: There's been so much drama over the "proposed planting area" from the PTA that the area of the school yard went unused for a couple of years . until a teacher used her own money and time to plant it and turn it into an enrichment activity for the kids which she ran herself

In our school teachers are way better at asking for sponsorship and freebees from outside companies than the PTA who think everything must be old school and DIY unless it's one of the inner circles BIL etc..

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 04/04/2017 19:38

Well, if your PTA are so rubbish, you know what to do about it. I can only speak for the schools where I have experience - the PTAs there certainly add value and enhance school life. Whether or not the 'PTA Mummies' are cliquey or on power trips.

TinselTwins · 04/04/2017 19:47

Well, if your PTA are so rubbish, you know what to do about i

Congratulations goodygoodygumdrops , you win at NRingTFT !

Littlestgirlguide25 · 04/04/2017 20:06

This was posted by our school on their Friends FB page.
I found it offensive as basically it is saying that unless you volunteer for the PTA your are a worthless, lazy waste of space, including those who already volunteer elsewhere.
Plus the PTA at our school only seem to run things (including committee meetings) during the school day, effecting excluding working parents.

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 04/04/2017 20:56

I have RTFT. Doesn't change my opinion.

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 04/04/2017 20:56

And I had read it before I posted.

TinselTwins · 04/04/2017 20:57

I have RTFT. Doesn't change my opinion then why did you tell me to join the PTA and try to improve it when I already posted about doing exactly that?

Mumzypopz · 04/04/2017 21:21

A lot of parents have said on here that their PTAs do more or different things than other PTAs seem to. It does not mean people are saying their pta are rubbish if they say they do different things. Someone upthread said something along the lines of bet your kids benefit from the books, subsidised trips etc....It really annoy me when people say that. Surely people who volunteer do so for the benefit of others, so I can't understand when they don't want kids to benefit unless their parents volunteer too. I think when you sign up for something you should take on board that not everyone is going to do what you do.

My PTA doesn't subsidise trips, or buy library books.

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 04/04/2017 21:31

I didn't.

Mumzypopz · 04/04/2017 21:34

You didn't what?

Oblomov17 · 04/04/2017 21:40

Peter and Jane is normally quite spot on.

Many of the PTA bits are true.

brassbrass · 04/04/2017 21:52

the PTA is like every other section of humanity. There are all sorts from do gooders and generous contributors to egotistical maniacs with something to prove because having a kid caused a void in their career and the PTA will somehow fill it!

I sat in one meeting where a mum complained bitterly about children whose parents didn't help out at school events getting parts in the school play. She actually only wanted the volunteers kids to be chosen. Just think about this. Every child matters. Righto.

I used to volunteer regularly, did it without fuss and had some fun at the same time. Things I volunteered for I enjoyed outside of school anyway. No being a martyr, no expectation of blue plaques in my honour in the playground and no joining bitchy cliques.

DXBMermaid · 04/04/2017 22:00

Love it!

mimishimmi · 05/04/2017 03:02

Uh, what?

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 05/04/2017 09:24

Cross-posted, Mumzy, it was to Tinsel.

ArcheryAnnie · 05/04/2017 11:41

There seem to be an awful lot of middle class parents from well-heeled schools who think PTA money is for extras. That's nice for them.

And I have already said - at least twice now - that nobody should be made to do anything. Involvement in the PTA is voluntary, and that's the way it should stay. But if you don't do anything and at the same time go on about how busy and important you are, you can't possibly have the time (because my experience is that the women who pitch in are already stupidly busy and really don't need the extra work), or you sneer at the women who do get involved at gets things done, then I judge you.

If you aren't loud about your time being so much more valuable than these needy, bored, control-freak other mums (there were none of these at the PTA in my DS's school, btw, just people doing their best), and if you don't loudly sneer from the sidelines at the women doing the work, then my post wasn't about you.

HTH.

MirriVan · 05/04/2017 13:28

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TinselTwins · 05/04/2017 17:45

Seems to me like a lot of the reasons for not getting involved with the PTA are similar to the ones that a lot of men use for why they don't pitch in with their fair share of housework...….

Not really, it's more like how people don't get involved with planting a border on the green when most neighbours are happy enough with just lawn and then the person who wanted the border moans about having to do the border themselves..

TinselTwins · 05/04/2017 17:49

People have different priorities, I'ld rather call in on a neighbour and make sure they're okay after work than go and have meetings with people who are just going to do whatever they did last year, that doesn't mean that everybody else should be in their neighbours house as much as me!

limon · 05/04/2017 17:51

It's twatty.

Mumzypopz · 05/04/2017 19:40

I know you weren't aiming your post at anyone specifically archery Annie but just thinking about what you have said....I'm not a middle class parent and my school isn't well heeled at all, but our PTA is very much for extras, and I suspect a lot of others are the same. I know it's nice to have these extras and not complaining at all, it's nice if they want to do it...But this is probably why I view the PTA to be of little importance at the moment. (Not in a nasty way). But obviously from this thread I see that other PTAs seem to have a much more involved part to play, I wonder if it depends on how much the Head of school wants them involved.

GoodyGoodyGumdrops · 05/04/2017 20:59

Given what's happening to school budgets, I suspect PTA funds will end up spent on fewer 'luxuries' (eg planted borders) and diverted towards more 'necessaries'.

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